Help with English

Discussion in 'Linguistics' started by Saint, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    sounds like my sister who would run around the room yelling "I got a secret, I got a secret"....
     
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  3. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I doubt she kept it long.
     
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  5. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    If Larry Ellison sailed off on his yacht for good tomorrow, who would really run Oracle Corp (ORCL.N)?

    why for "ggod"? means what?

    When music stops for Oracle CEO dance, Catz may grab Ellison's chair
    music stop for dancing = ? Game over?
     
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  7. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Throe means pain, why is it a pain to Bill Gates? He is willing to do that.
     
  8. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    she knew that bugged me, so often that she would actually NOT have a secret..
     
  9. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    "For good" means permanently, or at least with the intention of making something permanent. So if Larry Ellison sails off on his yacht for good, it means that he won't be coming back to continue running the company.

    He would not actually do that, because he has friends, family, a mansion, and lots of fun things to do in the USA. But "to sail off on one's yacht" is a figure of speech implying that the person will not come back. And it's appropriate because he really does own a large yacht--most millionaires do.

    This refers to a game called Musical Chairs. It starts with all of the participants sitting in chairs arranged in a circle. Then when the music starts, they are required to stand up and start walking in a circle. Someone quickly appears and takes away one of the chairs. Then when the music stops everyone tries to sit down. Someone will be left without a chair, so the game is over for him.

    This repeats until there are only two people and one chair left. The person who is able to sit down is the winner of the game.

    The writer is comparing the competition for the office of Oracle CEO to a game. He is suggesting that the winner will be chosen at random, rather than by comparing abilities.

    The definition of "throe" is more specific. It refers to a spasm, or even to a strong attack of emotion. If we intend for it to refer to pain, we say "the throes of pain."

    Nonetheless, this writer doesn't understand his native language very well. That is a very poor use of the word "throes," for the reason you cite: this is not painful or unpleasant for Bill Gates because he derives great pleasure (and tremendous tax benefits

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    ) from his charitable works.

    If I were this writer's editor, I would have sent it back for improvement.
     
  10. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Who's getting rich off the stock market?

    off = can I use "from", "out of" ?
     
  11. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    "Off" is colloquial, but it's used so commonly that it is acceptable in almost any context. "From" is acceptable and people will understand you, but you'll probably never hear it or read it.

    "Out of" would also be understood, but no one says or writes it. They'll think it's a rather strange phrase, and it will identify you as a non-native speaker.

    If you want to write clearly and formally, your best choice would be, "I am getting rich by investing in the stock market."

    The way to improve the clarity of your speech and writing is almost always to use more words.
     
  12. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    "Off of" sounds mostly US usage to me. Particularly, it sounds Texan to me.
    And specifically, it sound like Alex Jones the conspiracy Shock-Jock.

    I don't see a problem with "out of", but better is simply "from".

    @ Saint
    Try doing a google search, and see how common the variations are, and who uses them.
    Could you do that and report back to us what you find?
     
  13. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    1. My mother can cook better than my father.
    2. My mother can cook better than my father does.
    3. My mother can cook better than my father cooks.

    Which is correct?
     
  14. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    No, we all talk this way.
     
  15. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    This is correct and it's the way most people talk--at least in the USA

    This is correct, but in the USA most people don't say it that way.

    This is correct but no one talks that way. It sounds like a foreign student.
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    How about this one:

    My mother cooks better than my father does.

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  17. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    He's in the throes of spending $40 billion on charity through his philanthropic foundation, and his net worth is still growing – and growing fast.
    Yes you are right. Wrong choice of word.
    A better word is "process". "On charity" is not really required. It's a philanthropic foundation. I would prefer "Yet" to "and".
    He's in the process of spending $40 billion through his philanthropic foundation, yet his net worth is still growing – and growing fast.
     
  18. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    To back down is to yield, or to give in.
    To back up is to support.
     
  20. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    'I just passed jean in flooding'
    on flooding?
    with flooding?
     
  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I don't even know what that sentence means... "Flooding"?
     
  22. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    flooding, posting comment after comment after comment
     
  23. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Thanks! I can log on through an ancient Windows box, but I don't have 24/7 access.
     

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