What to terraform first?

What planet do you think we should terraform first?

My vote is Venus but I'm biased, I feel like we should fix it.

Mars is my second vote.

Of course we'd need to be a super civilization by then so lol

 

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We should acquire a lot of experience from our current actions in de-terraforming the Earth.

 

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All things being equal probably Venus, because it is closer and similar in size. I don't know if it needs to be done to any planet, however. The necessities of a "super civilization" are no more visible to me than the needs of current society are to someone from 1000 years ago ("but 7 billion people would produce too much horse poop....").

The interesting thing about the super civilization, though, is that I think we will have it in like 40 years. Terraforming would require advanced nanotechnology and AI, which we are already verging on at an accelerating rate.

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Self replication will enable processes like terraforming whole plants and megastructure engineering of things like Dyson spheres to be complete in under a decade. The question is, will we solve the 'living space' problem some other way before then? I would not be surprised if life went virtual before then. That's one of my guesses for the Fermi paradox. Who knows.

 

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Earth.

 

How about we "terraform" some other planet with nanobots and the like, then we all move there and leave earth to the rest of nature ?

 

You go. I'll stay right here.

 

Ah, a prophet! What you suggest is probably just how it will all turn out 'accidentally' in the end.

 

I'd like to see nanotech evolve into sentient beings that we can just dump on a planet and leave them to figure the rest out. Kinda like panspermia but robotic

 

Yes, but what if they disliked taxation without representation? Kind of like Thomas Paine, but robotic.

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Seeing as how we are really polluting Earth, we should first try to get it in order before going anywhere and fucking up another planet by humans that can't even take care of their own planet.

 

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Thanks for that above, Enmos. As for the rest of you subscribers, if you wait for the end, you will see some other pretty interesting video links as well.

 

I see two problems at this stage.
At this stage, we do not have the technology to terraform Mars or Venus.
Secondly terra-forming would take a long long time......near enough to a thousand years I would reckon.

What I see as more beneficial at this time is self supporting modules and green houses and Labs for a colony on Mars... [or maybe underground.

With Venus I envisage a "cloud city" type space station at 50 kms above the surface.
This is where the barometric pressure is equal to one Earth atmosphere and the atmospheric content not as dense, with temperatures around 50 C.

 

If technology were to remain like it is today for the entire thousand years, yes.

However with the sort of nanotechnology we will have by mid century, terraforming will take perhaps a few weeks or months.

 

I like that it ended on a positive note with humans colonizing multiple planets.

I know it wasn't intended that way, but that's how I see it.

Anyway, Mars would be the obvious choice to terraform first because we could start living there while the terraforming was happening. Venus, on the other hand, is not a very hospitable place at the moment.

 

I was thinking the same way as madanthonywayne: Venus would be too much work. Venus is dynamic and would fight back. Doesn't it have like a sulfuric acid atmosphere and a 500 degree Fahrenheit surface temperature? I know Mars is hardly Fort Lauderdale at spring break, but it seems less of a challenge for a first stab at terraforming.

BTW, in my first post in this thread I wrote just one word as a candidate for terraforming: "Earth." I appreciate that most of you got my meaning, but if I may elaborate, I meant that we should get our own house in order before we go trying to re-form another. "Be the change you wish to see.," as Gandhi said. Far nobler to transform lifeless worlds (if Venus and Mars are truly lifeless) after we've repaired this one than to go about chewing them up and spitting them out.

 

It ain't gonna' happen, but the Moon would be coolest

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Yes, of course! It's a convenient commute, is now known to have a bit of water, is lifeless and is known throughout the quadrant to be 'ours'.

 

Mars is probably easier. Dig a big wide hole until the pressure and temperature at the bottom are above about 0C and 200 millibars. Make it conical in cross section so you don't need to shore up the sides. Use robots if you like, or use say just 10% of our 5000 nuclear warheads, or divert an asteroid. At that temperature/pressure you can grow plants with only a plastic covering to hold in some oxygen. Extend the tent an acre at a time until you've covered the entire bottom. As the plants make O2 it is vented and more CO2 is allowed in. The atmospheric pressure will slowly increase, allowing plants to live at higher and higher elevations within the hole. At that point you'll be able to walk around with just an oxygen mask and a jacket.

 

Hmmph! You're right. And you know what? Where I live here on the old Earth - it's so mildly temperate and terribly polluted that I find myself doing that about half the year already!

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