Body acidic/alkaline Cancer/illness cure.

As I am starting to read more books about health and longevity, and a lot of advice filling books and videos is about your bodies PH levels.

From what I gather we should pee a little acidic in the morning and in the evening we should be slightly alkaline.

Now people are touting the benefits of being alkaline and even saying it is a miracle cancer/illness cure.

Here is one of a thousand videos on the topic.

[video=youtube;ITRfBK9cisM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITRfBK9cisM[/video]

Many such testimonials make similar claims.

The Canadian Cancer Society does not yet recognize this as a treatment and perhaps it is not valid, but there is a lot of support for this.


One thing about this methods is it can be done on top of western medicine. Steve Jobs however tried alternative cancer treatments and is now dead. I certainly would not recommend ignoring western treatments, but in cases like the video above where there is no treatments this sounds plausible...

Any biologist types out here that can shed a light on this.

I am thinking of buying Litmus and trying this, as a preventative. One of the videos I saw was about blood cells reacting in over acidic blood, and it makes me wonder if this should be a concern.

 

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I've read this over and over again

Acidic body is not healthy

 

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Yes. If your blood goes too acid, it begins to strip the calcium from your bones and teeth. You will notice when your teeth get loose and wobbly. I suspect that you would feel the effects on a grosser level though, like acid reflux, ulcers in the mouth, throat, stomach etc. Your blood goes acid when you exercise due to the production of lactic acid as a byproduct pf muscle metabolism. That lactic acid is then removed by your kidneys while you sleep. Localized lactic acidosis gives you "charlie horses" - severe muscle cramping from overusing and under-resting the muscles concerned. System - wide lactic acidosis can be quite painful indeed.

However, we have specific enough knowledge about cancer to know that it is not just one disease, it is many. Each requires a unique defense and/or treatment. A cancer that is caused by a specific chemical will likely not be prevented by watching the alkalinity of your blood closely.

Consider prostatic acinar adenocarcinoma, a type of prostate cancer. It is caused by a misfolding of the DNA in prostate gland cells resulting in a cancer. That misfolding can be induced by the presence in the blood of arsenic and/or lead levels above a specific threshold. It can also be an inherited defect in the replication of the DNA and/or as a product of aging. You cannot avoid that by checking the pH of your urine, not that there is anything wrong with doing that. I would suggest after checking your blood pressure and blood sugar though.

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Also, we all know that no number of testimonials can prove a theorem and it takes only one to disprove it.

 

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I've heard various things that tend to add some validity to the value of extra mineral intake. Minerals tend to neutralize acids, though I'm not sure how this would really work in the body. The type and proportion of different minerals should matter in all this. I have been looking for an affordable mineral source lately, considering options ranging from mined organic matter from Utah that has been purified for its minerals, to the Caltrate (tm) supplement pill.

The benefits of minerals makes sense, considering what I've heard about average Western diets lacking enough minerals, and Westerners tend to be sort of sickly. I recall hearing stories from quite a while back about certain communities with very old people in them that drew their water from mineral-rich mountain streams. I wonder what minerals were in the water of the healthiest places.

Here is another twist to this whole thing that might apply. To my knowledge, acids can be considered a type of free radical, which tend to damage the body. So, having more defense against those acids might confer some protection from that damage.

 

The pH of your body is very tightly controled naturally, slight variations are deadly. The pH of the blood is between 7.35 and 7.45; if you are out of that range you are in big trouble. If your blood pH is just slightly acidic or even neutral you will die. You cannot actually change your pH to any extent and have some sort of health benefits. If you change the pH slightly you will kill cancer cells - unfortunately you will kill all the other healthy cells too.

The whole pH control thing is a scam to get you to buy certain over priced supplements that do no more than taking a Flinstones vitamine.

 

amen

 

Agreed. This whole business is nothing more than the latest "urban legend" created by an unscruplus supplement company (and jumped on by others) to separate a fool and his money. It's *completely* bogus and I caution EVERYONE to stay away from it.

 

@ Read Only,

Which is it? Bogus or real. You seem to agree that if your PH is out of range you are in big trouble (as in quote), yet you also feel it does not matter.

This is sitting on both sides of the fence.

I have tested my PH and it says my blood is very acidic. That means it is not in the 7.35 and 7.45 range, and more in the 5.5 range.

So should I make attempts to make my blood more alkaline, or should I just let my diet keep my Blood/Urine Acid?

Origin seems to think this is a death sentence for me as he says,

However I feel very healthy.

I would never endorse using only an alternative cure, but I see no harm in switching to a more healthy diet that will bring my blood back to the alkaline state once in a while.

Also a lot of people speaking up for this are not doing so for profit, but to share their experiences. I see no harm, but I would not drop western medicine in favor of it like Steve Jobs did. If Steve Jobs was not such a butthead, he would likely be alive today (he went all alternative with his cancer).

When it comes to health. I think it is best to err on the side of caution.

 

????? How in the world did you get the idea that I thought it doesn't matter????????????????? Read my post again! And notice what I said.

 

Which proves that your analysis method is flawed.

Essentially a pH of below 7 (acidic) is not compatable with life. Did you measure the pH just after drownding?

Blood pH.

 

Sounds a bit like the Chinese Ying-Yang thing.

One thing is sure:
If your food consists of meat, fat, flour, salt, and artificial flavourings,
which is the content of virtually every package on your supermarket shelf,
you are not going to be healthy.

 

A further comment here: since urine is composed of bodily waste (toxins that have been removed form you bloodstream) it is highly likely that the pH of your urine will be very different than the pH of you blood. The ammonia, phosphate and uric acid alone should throw the pH way off your blood pH.

 

Yes Stonephi and Origin.

The strips I bought claim to be able to detect body PH from Urine or Saliva. My Saliva is within normal range and the other is 5.5, so I feel Saliva would be the more reliable method. It was a measurement error.

@ Read Only,
I seem to have misunderstood your comments.

 

It would make sense that your saliva pH would be closer to your blood pH than your urine.

 

When I read this article today, I thought of this thread. It discusses the concept of alkaline and acid foods.

 

It sounds like garbled rubbish to me. What do they mean by "acid' and "alkaline"? It is unclear whether they are saying certain foods are "acid" or "alkaline" in themselves, or that they "produce" (or do they mean induce?) acid production or otherwise.

I did once hear a woman at a dinner party say lemons are alkaline, which is obviously nonsense.

You have a reference to this theory that clarifies this at all?

 

Yeah, the thought goes that lemons are alkaline-inducing in the body. I don't agree with much of the information out there on these ideas, however, I can accept that the body can have a hard time healthily maintaining the PH it likes if the diet isn't good enough.

Here's pretty much more information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_diet

I wonder if it is the case that an acid is generally more damaging within the body than an akali, if an acid generally acts more as a damaging free radical in the body than an alkali.

 

It appears that we are a little confused about how our bodies work here.

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Your stomach secretes hydrochloric acid so that you can digest the food you eat. Lemons contain high levels of ascorbic acid which is not alkaline. Salt is alkaline. If you eat a lemon your stomach contents get really acidic since your stomach secretes acid to digest whatever you throw in there and you put something very acid in there. If you then drink some bicarbonate of soda (a base) your stomach contents will turn alkaline (neutral).

Free radicals are oxidants. More about them here: http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/how-antioxidants-work1

 

Salt (sodium chloride) is not alkaline. Ascorbic acid is vitamin C. The main acid in citrus fruits, including lemons, is citric acid.

Lemon juice is ~5% citric acid, so 0.25-0.5g citric acid per lemon. A lemon contains ~ 50mg of vitamin C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon

But I have now found an explanation of all this mumbo-jumbo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_diet

It seems it all relates to pH, not of the body, or the blood, but of URINE, and attempts to link the known variability of urine pH to whether or not the COMBUSTION RESIDUE of various foodstuffs is acidic or alkaline. Apparently if you combust a lemon and measure the pH of its ash, it will be alkaline. Of course at this point all the organic acids have been turned to CO2 and water and have long gone, so one is looking at the inorganic element oxides etc that remain. What the fuck this has to do with diet one might well ask.

But Victoria Beckham swears by it, so it must be true - and look how healthy and well-balanced she appears to be.

 

I'm wondering more about things like what foods do to the PH balance of the overall body, with some focus on the blood. Is the body harmed more by being 1 unit on the PH scale below its comfort zone than 1 unit above? Or does this sensitivity in either direction vary, and when? Carbon dioxide in the blood also plays a part in all of this as it contributes to blood acidity.