atomic waste disposal and cheap launches

Why couldnt we devise a mile long cannon whcih would be air activated, and just fire off atomic waste disposal into a black hole, or perhaps send satellites into orbit cheap

 

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suppose the satellite carrying the stuff falls from the sky as has often been the case in the past? Can you imagine the disaster that would occur? the black hole..............how do you find one and aren't they millions of light years from here?

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atomic waste disposal and satellite launches cheap

Any missile fired from earth would travel indefinitely if given the required escape velocity; the black hole destination is only an aiming point, who cares if it does not get there and travels into space trillions of light years away

 

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Why a black hole? Why not the sun? I doubt there could be any adverse reactions in the sun. I mean i fully realize that sci-fi likes to pretend like we as humans have the power to disrupt GIGANTIC natural processes like the sun and the earth's geology, but at least with the sun i'm almost sure that nothing we could do could damage it.

-AntonK

 

not much of one, you'd get a minor increase in the amount of radiation you recieve
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Maybe we could borrow the remains of saddams gigantic gun for it and turn into a peacemachine

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Besides there are cheaper ways to get rid of your depleted uranium, just cast ammunition from it and shoot iraqi tanks with it, who cares about some kids getting cancer there....

For the heavy actinides (cesium, strontium etc) experiments are going to burn it as fuel in specially designed reactors and actually get some energy out of it...

Technologically we are coming to a point that we could clean up allmost every kind of waste. Check this out:

http://www.is.pw.edu.pl/~akk/plazma_en1.html

The only thing that stops is :
WHO PAYS FOR IT?

These techniques however will become cheaper as the energy to drive these processes will become cheaper, so maybe the industrial revolution will have a happy end

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like I said, just get an air gun and and fire it into the universe; cheap doable and safe, whats the problem?

 

i think an airgun is a little bit not feasible... but thats just my opinion

 

Several:

the speed you need to reach escape velocity imposes:

- drag heat by the object travelling fast through the air likely burning it midair.

- Gigantic G-forces, tearing your container appart unless you use a really really long gas pomped gun, rather expensive, but I am sure tec and cost improvements will be made to make it all feasible....


All ins and outs discussed on this page:

http://www.islandone.org/LEOBiblio/SPBI1C1.HTM

 

Really now... With whom on this Earth, would you entrust the endevour of launching tons of radioactive waste into space?
NASA??

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atomic waste disposa and cheap launches

approximately 100 air gun launches would be economically equivalent to 1 rocket blast-off. The Gs would not necessarily be that high with a mile long muzzle, and the air being pushed out by the waste missile could be simultaneously be drawn out, keeping friction down. According to rudimentary physics the escape velocity would be equivalent to the square root of 2xgxh and that would be enough to propel it into any old black hole

 

What if we accidently hit some civilised planet and caused an intergalactic incident?

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First we send over Ralph Nader to file their complaints, if that doesn't help we send them more nuclear waste in the shape of bombs....

 

We would just extend the universal apology "OOPS" !

 

There's no such thing as a free launch!

ron

 

In just what state is most radioactive waste in anyways??
There must be a lot more radioactive cooling water than there is spent fuel rods.-Turbine

"Any missile fired from earth would travel indefinitely if given the required escape velocity; the black hole destination is only an aiming point, who cares if it does not get there and travels into space trillions of light years away

Like the Pioneer mission. It's loaded with the sights and sounds, many different languages, and mathematical formulas of Earth. And a map of where it comes from.
Last I heard it was still barely functioning but well on it's way out of the solar system. It's only "luck" that it wasn't destroyed by obsticles. I hope "something" finds it sometime.

 

I say we just bury the stuff in a mountain

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A division of my company got the contract for designing some of the facilities... gotta love job security

 

That was a good idea untill the media blabbered it's location to every terrorist on the plannet. Now it's a bad idea. How about burrying it on the moon?...or.....
Maybe we could get Bill Gates (or anyone with time and money)to build a modern version of the old Staurn V

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We could pack tons into that thing. And all it has to do is make Venus and use it's gravity for the slingshot effect into the sun. Or why not just dump it there?
The big blow gun idea doesn't sound so bad now.

 

Actually the cooling water is in a different circuit than the water that cycles through the reactor. So it contains virtually zero radation from the reactor.

 

Anything would be better than what they have done in the past.
They put it in "millenia proof" containers and then stuff those containers in the deep trenches of the oceans. Millenia proof or not a major shift in the tectonic plates will pop one of those things open and then its bye bye life on earth.