Any atheists here who were once believers?

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  1. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    That whole post must come so close to preaching it isn't even possible to separate it. You get away with it for you are preaching atheism but if I did the opposite I'd be banned again. So why is there favoritism around here?
     
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  3. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    We are going to find out how they judge these matters. So we know how to fight this battle.
     
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  5. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Just to humour me, what do you mean by "problem" in such a statement?
    At one point, as I understand it, it was inconceivable that people did not believe in the existence of gods, and "atheist" was a derogatory term for those that, while believing in the existence of god (because everyone did), they turned their back on the gods and lived their life as though the gods were absent to them. In today's parlance these would be theists but also practical-atheists... i.e. they believe in the existence of gods but have shunned interaction with the gods.
     
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  7. Balerion Banned Banned

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    You have an entire thread dedicated to you preaching your fringe Christianity. I don't know what you're complaining about.
     
  8. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    I had 2 days off so I read a lot of this thread and the Christian song thread, and my favorite was the Song thread of course. There could be a powerful testimony there, it would be like having a powerful argument that persuades. But it isn't preaching, not in my opinion.
     
  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Really? Is that what you got from that?

    No. You're conclusion is not correct.

    Ooh!

    Hey that reminds me, it nearly Christmas.

    Glad I could be of assistance.

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    I guess you're right. What was I doing, tryin to think. I should know my place.
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  10. Balerion Banned Banned

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    I'm pretty sure that's what everyone got from it. I mean, you say yourself that your insight into God's existence comes from scripture, yet you can't explain who decides what is or isn't scripture, or how these decisions are made. You haven't even attempted to make a case for their legitimacy, so one can only be left with the notion that your insight comes from a feeling. From emotion.

    There's no other way to read it. You won't ever elaborate, so if we're off base, you only have yourself to blame.

    Neither is your spelling of "your." You're is a contraction of "You Are." Keep that in mind, and you'll avoid that mistake next time. Yes, I understand this requires you taking on new ideas, but trust me, it's for the best.
     
  11. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    You guys should ease back on Jan for I think you have nearly broken him. Do you want him to become an atheist? Soon you will have no one left to pick on but me.
     
  12. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Coward. Too late to go all noble and serious.


    Again:
    How do you decide what to count as scriptures and what not?

    Why Srila Prabhupada's version of the Bhagavad-gita, why not Srila BV Narayana Maharaja's, or Gandhi's, or Srila Sridhar's Maharaja's, or Swami BV Tripuari's or yet some other version?
     
  13. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    If he has the sort of divine insight that he claims to have, us questioning him a bit shouldn't be a problem.
     
  14. geeser Atheism:is non-prophet making Valued Senior Member

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    No! That would mean killing somebody, because someone else said so.
    In that instant you would only have the three options fight or flee or try to talk you way out of it..
    No! though I have worked in some of the most dangerous place in the world.
    No! yet admittedly it can be unnerving. This is why I said "We all have problems throughout our lives. our character comes from how we deal with them."


    I was given two questions regarding a robbery and divorce, which have happened to me. if you read my latest reply to Rob above you will understand what I meant by problems. Be they life threatening or not they are still problems to be dealt with.
     
  15. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    His watchtower is a house of cards. He has great insight, but I sense the cards are moving, buckling under the strain. There has been no let up for months on end. Picking picking the cards are moving.
     
  16. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    He he.

    I've known Jan for years. I don't think you're right.
     
  17. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Check this out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gln7zRFhOqg

    I think this is about the only discussion on this subject I've seen that seems "honest". The participants weren't trying to score cheap debating points, the pastors were actually gracious all the way through even when the other "side" was making very effective comments. Everyone was civil and even friendly.

    I liked it because the religious side allowed open discussion and really didn't become too defensive. Mainly it was because it was a discussion and not a debate and most importantly because the pastors actually showed the toleration that they frequently preach but seldom show.

    There were no Jans, Robittybob1, Mazulu arguments going on there

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  18. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    Where was this dangerous place? What happened?
     
  19. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Here is the misunderstood point:

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  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Rob, you're not getting it.

    jan.
     
  21. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Few - and maybe even no - things can defeat a man who possesses great faith in himself.

    Which is why, for all practical intents and purposes, the first step toward believing in God, is to become a cocky self-assured bastard.
    Weaklings with humanist sensibilities never get far.
     
  22. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Enlighten him.
     
  23. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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