Strong and weak nuclear forces

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by lbiarge, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Dave Lush Registered Senior Member

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    I think the strong and weak forces might both have a similar origin to the magnetic force. They can all three be due to the Thomas precession. The magnetic force is a kind of Coriolis force, the strong force is a kind of centrifugal force, and the weak force corresponds to the Euler force. Except, they are opposite to the usual pseudoforce directions because the Thomas precession doesn't cause pseudoforces the way ordinary coordinate system rotations do. An observer seeing a Thomas precession of a particle rest frame sees different laws of motion due to the TP, reflecting a lack of psedoforces seen by an observer co-moving with the accelerating and translating particle. So, an always-repulsve centrifugal pseudoforce can become both real and always attractive, just like the strong force. It's straightforward relativistic kinematics. Isn't this simply stating the obvious?
     
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  3. Prof.Layman totally internally reflected Registered Senior Member

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    The strong force is just more "powerfull" than the other forces, it just has a bigger effect. "Strong" is another word for "powerfull", but you shouldn't get it confused when someone says this force is "stronger" than the other. It just means that it is more "powerfull", not that it is connected with the strong force.

    So then the electromagnetic force would be "stronger" or just more powerfull than the gravitational force. You could have a small magnet and then pick something off the ground and then the small magnet would have counteracted the entire gravitational force of the whole Earth. The strong force keeps atoms together most of the time so then it is more powerfull. If it wasn't more powerfull then any atoms anywhere wouldn't be able to stay together, but since they stay together most of the time then it is said to be more powerfull.

    The weak force is what happens when particles decay, but they do not decay most of the time. Like you say it takes big atoms, and then they are unstable. It takes more in order to overcome the stronger force, the strong force. Then say you have a hydrogen atom, it is very stable because the strong force is more powerfull so then it is able to keep the atom together better.

    Quantum physics doesn't really say what happens to particles when they get absorbed by other particles, they do not track them as virtual particles that exist in other particles. They haven't been able to get the math to work out in order to do that. When they have tried this approuch the particles wouldn't have the same mass, so then they cannot say that the particle is even still really there. They just say that the particle just transforms into other particles. Then the other particles are just gone. So then to develop such a theory then you would really just have to work the math yourself, no one has been able to get the math to work out this way. I have been thinking of going back to school to study physics, if I do I think I would try to take a shot at it, because I don't think they will be able to unify gravity with the other forces even after finding the Higgs Boson. It may just be the beginning of then having to take a different approuch.
     
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