For ladies down with talking about how much they love lovin' themselves, the Love Joule in Tokyo's Shibuya district is the place to be. The "love and sex bar dedicated to women" is Japan's (and, we assume, the world's) first female masturbation bar, where customers "are able to experience a pleasant place in which they can openly discuss masturbation," said owner Megumi Nakagawa. The women's bar (men are barred unless accompanied by a woman) features sex toys lined up on the wall behind the bar. Love Joule has a clientele that includes commercial sex workers and porn actresses, a place "perfect for girls-only discussions or a date." Hooray for women's lib! http://now.msn.com/masturbation-discussion-bar-catered-to-women-called-love-joule-opens-in-tokyo
wow..... is the need to talk about masturbation that strong? I mean really, how often does anyone feel the urge to call their pals around for a chit chat about playin with themselves. I have always thought of masturbation, on the rare occasions that I think of it at all, as being something you do in private because its private. If you aren't alone why would you need to masturbate. Well, either way, I'm glad those who do wanna talk about it can do so in a trendy bar and not feel like they will be given the boot. But honestly , people in America can talk about it in bars all they want without a special bar being dedicated to it. I guess it is different in Japan. I don't think I could spend more than 20 minutes discussing it before I'd get grossed out by someone else's graphic anecdote and would prefer to change the subject. I wonder if they make you leave if you talk about something other than masturbation.
A woman's masturbation bar, makes more sense then a male masturbation bar. But like seagypsy I think is best to be done, if any or at all, and kept in private.
Masturbation has always struck me as the type of sexual activity you settle for when you can't get the real thing - although I could imagine being around a bunch of people with that sort of lack of inhibition would be arousing. Looks like men can come in, but have to be accompanied by a woman.
I don't think everyone thinks like that, especially in todays free sex world. I believe that with the new openess to sex that this is something that is going to become part of the landscape soon in the developed countries. While some think one sexual situation should be private I've known others that want multiple partners and find them at wherever they can. Not my cup of tea but if they are adults then they know what they want and should be allowed to do that.
Well its not my cup of tea either Buddah12. An if you have a partner that's faithful, its not right to them to go to or participate in places like that. But there is that temptation just to check it out. An that's not right either. In some religions this would be viewed as "wrong". I personally wish places like this didn't open up. How would you feel if you went in and seen a family member working there? How do you think this compares to a strip joint? Don't you think this would end up as a location as a "drugs spot"? An bring down realestate value?
From what I have been told, it is indeed very different in Japan - especially if you are a woman in a crowd on a bus or a train. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Well turn that around. How do would a family member working there feel to see you walk in? Thing is if it is wrong for a family member to work there and you disapprove of the place, why would you be walking in to catch them? Working at an establishment like that wouldn't necessarily mean you are participating in what the clientele are there to enjoy. I used to work at a gay bar. I am not gay and I usually didn't participate in getting drunk. I hosted my karaoke show and that was it. Also take note, that the article says the bar is a place to talk about masturbation, not practice it. I don't see anything necessarily harmful in mature adults talking about it. It seems the owners have created rules to reduce the amount of men coming in to just pick up women by requiring that they already have a date when they come in. Any woman that appreciates this sort of bar wouldn't likely risk the integrity of it by bringing in a guy friend they are not actually dating knowing he would likely just be getting off on the conversations. And I don't see many genuine couples being interested in this bar as a hot date location as any men would be the odd ones out. I do see how it could be extremely enticing to lesbian and bisexual women however. Like buddha12 said, It isn't my cup of tea but more power to those who would want it. I don't see it any more damning to property values than any other themed bar. Hooters doesn't seem to bring property values down and it is a business that caters to people who like to look at women's breasts. They don't get to touch but they do get to stare. And hooters has amazing hot wings. I went in to get wings there when I was a practicing Muslim in full burqa lol. Imagine i was getting more looks in hooters than the waitresses were lol. Either way, this bar is in Japan. Remember that. They have very different customs when it comes to public affection and what is acceptable to talk about in familiar company. Here in USA we can talk about whatever we want, including masturbation, in bars. So we may not understand the need for it. I have never been to Japan but the article somewhat indicates that in Japan, discussing these sorts of things may be taboo. If that is the case then bravo to the bar owner for giving the women a place to feel a little more free.
Well, I thought it was common knowledge. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! An attractive woman in a crowd on a train or bus in Japan is likely to be groped, grabbed and 'felt up' by strange men. Digital penetration is a frequent goal of said men, and they often accomplish that somewhat forcibly. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Hello Seagypsy. You asked me Seagypsy Quote -Also take note, that the article says the bar is a place to talk about masturbation, not practice it. This is why I assumed there would be more sexuality there Buddah12 Quote - features sex toys lined up on the wall behind the bar. You also want me to turn that around about the family member seeing me there. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ok I will explain. I thought someone would ask me about that. I would go into a place like that if I heard my daughter or son worked there. I would not like my kid working in such a place. Kinda like catching them red handed in a way. And I would try getting them to pursue better work options any way I could I recall the Karaoke job you had. I liked karaoke back in the day Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! didn't know anyone made it easier. Now I would not embarrass myself like that. (I'm terrible). But your sexual preference is not really a concern of mine. And you are married. And so am I. Oh I never ben to hooters honestly.
I had a little trouble following your post. But I think you have mentioned before that you access the site from your phone so I won't give you too much grief over it. I have accessed from my phone before too and it is a pain in the ass trying to get the tags and stuff just right. If your kid is working in a bar, most likely they are no longer kids. They are grown adults, fully capable of making their own decisions. At what point will you let them go to make those decisions for themselves? I am pretty sure my mother didn't like me working in a bar in any capacity but she understands that I love karaoke and being in a bar is nearly a requirement for doing it. Also, I am 36, she doesn't interfere in my decisions no matter how strongly she disagrees with them. Otherwise I wouldn't have married either of my first two husbands. She hated both of them. I eventually did too. My current husband also didn't like me working in a bar, but he never suggested that I should stop working there on his command or wish. He hated it but was supportive and drove me to and from work in order to alleviate his concerns that I may be disrespected in the parking lot coming or going, or that if I did have a drink I may not be suitable for driving. Not sure it really matters much, but hunh?:huh: I only mentioned my sexual preference because I was demonstrating that employees of an establishment do not necessarily participate in the theme the bar promotes. It was a gay bar that I worked at, but that didn't mean I was gay. It was a bar, but it didn't mean that I got drunk there. This particular bar was one people would consider a hook up bar. Men, mostly, would come to find someone to take home and have sex with. I obviously wasn't getting picked up or attempting to pick anyone up there. I did my job, hosting karaoke, and that was it. Bartenders often go in, serve drinks, and go home. Sure some of them get drawn into bar activities but not all of them. It isn't a rule. I have known recovering alcoholics that were bartenders, kinda like the character "Sam" on the tv show "Cheers". I also don't see why anyone would feel justified in condemning someone for going into such a place, rather to work or as a customer. What's wrong with talking about masturbation? What's wrong with being in a sexualized environment? It is a place for consenting adults. Shouldn't adults feel free to discuss whatever topics they choose? We do it here on sciforums. Does doing it anonymously from behind a computer screen make it more ethical than doing it face to face in an environment where there is an established consensus to discuss said topics? I am atheist. I disagree with religion and find that it can be harmful and offensive. But I wouldn't discourage my daughter, who is not atheist, from going to church. Though she is only 16, one's faith or lack thereof, is personal and it is none of my business to tell her what to believe. Sexuality, in all its legal forms, is also personal. When she is a consenting adult, and to some degree even now, I have no right to tell her how to express her sexuality. Telling someone they shouldn't be in a place that embraces masturbation, is like telling them they can only have sex in missionary position.
Absolutely, we have actually already started talking about these things as well as masturbation. I talk pretty openly about subjects most people would rather their kids not know about. But in doing so my kids tend to feel free to tell me whats on their mind and we don't have a strong problem of embarrassment in our house. We aren't graphic, and we dont talk about stuff in public, but I don't discourage my kids from asking questions. Hell, they know more sex position slang than I do. They see stuff online and ask me "What is a blow job" and I just tell them. Then if they ask me what something else is that I don't know I tell them to google it and let me know what they find out. Sometimes we all regret having asked :/ Though I have explained to my teens that my openness should not be interpreted as permissiveness, I am also not in denial that teens will do what they will do and trying to lock them down is not the answer. So I also have condoms at the ready for them to ask for if needed. They have participated in AIDS awareness campaigns as well. so far none have asked for a condom yet.
I admit I was a little rushed at the time of that post Seagypsy. Sorry I was not as clear as usual. I recall the Karaoke job you had. I liked karaoke back in the day. I didn't know anyone, an when I sang that made it easier. I apologize if I don't cover all that you mention. If my "kid" worked in not just any bar. But a place like this masturbation bar. A strip joint. Or similar place. They may not quite working there. But they are going to know I don't approve. I will allow them to do what they wish when the time comes. But I'm going to show them I really don't condone. (My own personal reasons).
Fair enough. I don't think I would approve of my kid working at a strip club either. but with the way I have raised them, to stand up for their rights and for justice, I think the only one that would be embarrassed by me ambushing them at their place of work would be me. I would express my disapproval in a more discreet manner. But as you said, your reasons are personal and so I won't ask that you delve into your reasons for everything you do. You certainly don't owe any one of us an explanation.
