Good Thoughts Vs. Bad Thoughts

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Cyperium, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    You can evaluate it by logically calculation, what is best for us--to be more obese/positive, to be more thin/negative or to be healthy/balanced with homeostatis. This model also justyfy equanimity. You can put any aspect indicated for God, I try to justyfy that with this model. Angels and devil wars(devasur sangram in hindu culture) is well indicated to show it is meant to show for resuting balance on previous excess on either side.

    One angle is left in previous model i.e. how to adjust need on the time, whether by making centerline bit thicker or with slight vibrations because it may be very difficult to achieve this centerling under current changed environment/heat.
     
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  3. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, if only we could ignore the environment

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    I think the centerline needs to be a bit thicker, you know they say that when you are a certain height then you should weigh exactly a certain amount of kilos. I think that if we are doing such a general rule then the line should be thicker. However, individually that line may be very thin. After all, those that are naturally fat or skinny may eat as a normal person but still be unable to change the condition (neither worse or better), which implies that the body has settled for that configuration. That said; being skinny or fat doesn't necessarily mean that we must be unhappy. I think we should recognise this when we look at people, they may not be able to help it and our judgement might be the very thing that makes them sad.
     
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  5. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    In every aspect, oddness should lie in quantity but may not be in quality. All things change with the change in time which is meant to adjust need of time. Even in spritual aspects, I feel that difference is there in quantity--i.e. from basic to gross. Car basically made from iron with regular changes to adjust need of the time. Still while we buy a car, we first touch which is meant to check basic i.e iron quality, thereafter we see latest features. So anything to complete, basic and gross/current should be considered. Few religions are based on basics--so looses latest features to adjust need of the time. Others are based on gross who loses basics.

    About fat & skiny--though both can feel healthy & happy, still they will look comparatively odd in front of a healthy normal person.
     
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  7. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    I can agree to that, at least in our society. Many cultures doesn't have that need though, and are pleased with making tools that are exactly the same as yesterday - cause they know that it works.

    Again, in our society it looks odd. In another culture it may look normal.
     
  8. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    They can lag behind to need of the time.

    It is not necessary and valid that, whatever look good or bad, right or wrong to one is true also.
     
  9. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think the need is external to us, I think we are influenced by the society we live in. Yet many people choose to live a life that has less need for superficial stuff and I think that they are happier than us. Once you've start smoking it's hard to quit. Once you've started craving for more it's hard to settle for less.



    I don't think there is much truth to the way we look. I think the truth is a subjective quality that is the same throughout all people no matter how we look on the surface.
     
  10. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    It is valid for those people who do not want to change with the change in time. But I feel need of the time as per environmental change is need to be incorporated to sustain in current time. But that shoudn't be excessive to that need of time. God has also brought many of his incarnations, who suggested differently to adjust for need of the time. Otherwise what was the need?


    That is for absolute truth. By due to change in environment it may be difficult to get absolute truth. Like, I felt that due to change in time, centerline can be some thicker or slightly vibrating.
     
  11. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    There was no actual need, there was only a craving for more, and that was what we got. There was a constant struggle for survival back in the days, and when we don't have to put all the effort into survival we put the effort into wanting more things and wanting things to change so that we have something to do with our lives.

    Perhaps things just got boring when the struggle finished and we got free to do what we wanted instead. So there was no 'need' there was only 'want', well, there was some need, we have defeated a lot of illnesses that killed people back then, but besides that it is mostly 'want' that govern us today.

    If we look at the rate we consume the earth today it won't last. That's the truth. We would need a second earth to compensate for the consumption of today. We are little by little devastating the earths resources and capability to regenerate those resources.




    If we look at it externally then yes, the centerline must be thicker as so many people are left out otherwise. However, individually the centerline might be very thin. This is because the environment isn't always a reflection of the personal inner truth. The truth is the same to everyone, but affects each person differently due to the fact that each person is unique.

    The same mirror can give a different perspective for each person looking at it. The truth to the mirror is all those perspectives.
     
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  12. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    We should not bother about 2nd earth because it is felt that "nature balances itself". In view of change in global environment/thermodynamics/age/yuga, we may also need to adjust need of the time for paractical sake and it can be unavoidable. You are right that any deviation from original truth can be craving forming. Like, wheat flour used to make bread is truth but mixing some salt in it is common due to need of time which might had depleted this nutrient in wheat. But however it can be possible that mixed salt(sugar another one) can be craving/addiction causing agent(i had experianced it). Whether it really harm us or benefit us or not is a different consideration and may be valid due to need of the time.




    Absolute/origional truth may be very difficult to present or follow, if global environment is changed.
     
  13. Socratic Spelunker Registered Senior Member

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    Everything I learned about Good Ideas and Bad Ideas I learned from Animaniacs.
     
  14. Neferium Registered Member

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    Our brain has a unconscious and almost instant desire to interpret all external and internal sensations and interactions which are usually dependent on emotional response and imagination to create a thought. Imagination is used to attach a negative, positive or neutral story to a thought, so the thought itself is neutral and our ego (the projection of Identity) interprets information by fitting it in with the concept structure of the brain.

    I've realized if a person is enlightened, self aware etc, then they are able to notice actions and thoughts on a more critical and evaluative process, although it does feel kind of like a detachment from my physical body some times but I guess that's inevitable once you've taken control of your ego.
     
  15. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    I think that I understand what you mean. True, it is a detachment and, in my opinion, anything that is perceived as a detachment should be used with caution. I think it's safe as long as you know what you're doing or have enough integrity. I also think it's safe if you do it seldom and observe what's happening while you do it. We adapt to things, and feelings of detachment could be a sign that we haven't adapted to it yet. Just some words of advice. If you feel it is safe, then it probably is. Also, when used with caution you will eventually adapt to both this and the caution. Being introspective can be a bad thing, but can also be a good thing.
     
  16. johndemi Registered Member

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    To lead an emotionally healthy life need to have balanced emotions. Words like: always, never, impossible, terrible and perfect, are rigid and allow little room for interpretation or flexibility. Instead, when live somewhere in the middle then are in a better position to find sturdier footing which will lead to improved bPositive thoughts create more positive circumstances. Alternatively, negative thoughts contribute to feelings of dissatisfaction and disappointment. Therefore, changing our negative thoughts is essential to achieve happiness and peace.
     
  17. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but it is also important to take risks and to develop personality. Too much flexibility and a person can get lost, and in the extreme case can loose the personality. I think it's important to always have a way out though, but it's also important to do it your own way and getting to know yourself. If you are always flexible then I don't think you get to know yourself enough to have a sturdy personality. Good thoughts aren't always about positive thoughts, what is positive doesn't always lead to good things. Sometimes we need to get hurt, and sometimes we need backfire. Good thoughts, in my opinion, is to be honest with yourself and your limitations, and not think that you are great, where you are not.
     
  18. WangLP Registered Member

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    Of course ,the good thought must win the bad thought.....
     

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