Governments REAL position on UFO's

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  1. river

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  5. river

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    is there a problem
     
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  7. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Nope, no problem. Just don't have much patience to sit here and deal with Sitchin, right now. Maybe later.

    Sitchin really isn't related to the Governments position on UFO's.
     
  8. river

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    true
     
  9. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Criticism of Sitchin:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin#Translations_and_interpretations

    I might suggest, if a thread exists on this topic, Or on Nancy Lieder and her Zetan alien friends -Telepathic aliens telling her about our demise in 2000 REVISION* 2003 REVISION*2012 {Revision expected) - or Mayan Calnder myths or
    sigh...
    2012
    Niburu
    Planet X
    Find one and we can jumpstart a Sitchin stitchin'.
    ... Or start a new one.


    For here: A link to a quick read and preferably back on topic.

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  10. Spadge Registered Senior Member

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    It seems totally incredible to me that with all of the masses of evidence that something weird has been going on in our atmosphere for so long now that the sceptics still cannot accept it. So many people from all levels of society have seen nuts and bolts type craft clearly and close up exhibiting a technology that is clearly not human in origin. These objects have played cat and mouse with fighter jets, been tracked by radar, disabled nuclear missiles, left landing traces, injured humans and been photographed and video taped many times. I certainly don't 100% subscribe to the ETH but I am totally convinced that there is a non human intelligence here on this planet with us and who knows what its intentions are or how long we've coexisted with it. For you skeptics who still refuse to accept this, then Google cognitive dissonance if you don't already know what this means.
     
  11. river

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    I agree Spadge

    there is so much overwhelming evidence for the existence of UFO's , that to argue otherwise becomes a self denial conundrum , which then leads to the whether the individual can acctually handle the truth , really
     
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  13. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    A lot of this rests on the authenticity of the memoranda.

    Can they be proven real?
     
  14. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    It's wording like this that is dishonest and annoying.

    So Much Overwhelming evidence? Riiiight.
    Where is all this strong and overwhelming Evidence then? Not a shred of hard evidence, just claims and stories and most of those crumble to bits when checked out to verify.

    There is a lot more strong and overwhelming evidence of atmospheric conditions, delusion and psyche, and known causes of sitings. I got a call on the phone from a neighbor down the street describing a very large triangular object moving in patterns in the night sky. She said it was very silent, not a bit of noise.

    I walked down the street to to her front yard and joined her standing there staring skyward. Now, to her credit, she didn't think it was aliens, she was thinking a hang-glider.

    I glanced up- Flock of birds.

    I pointed out how I determined it and then she saw it. Oh, flock of birds. Laugh.

    There is no more "overwhelming evidence" of alien visitation than there is of bigfoot, bleeding statues of Mary or what else have you that masses of people claim to see but never provide a shred of evidence for.
     
  15. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Well said!

    And I've been saying for years that many of the "alien-believers" are just ordinary people. The problem with many of them, though, is that they live such common, ordinary, BORING lives that they are looking for some excitement *anywhere* they can find it. And UFO/alien stuff is easy to jump on. I believe you'd also find that most of them are a little short on the education front - which leaves them in a poor position to judge some things correctly.

    They are also the ones responsible for keeping those Screaming Headlines tabloids (ugh!!) at the the supermarket checkout lanes in business.
     
  16. river

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    it has not been two hrs yet GeoffP

    whatch the whole video
     
  17. river

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    there is nothing dishonest about what I said

    and who verifies these sightings , ahhh... the military

    and yet many , many are very much not birds or anything else but a aircraft of some kind

    bigfoot , the bleeding statues of mary , have nothing to do with unusual aircraft or UFO's

    what of the 1952 flap over Washington D.C. captured on radar ?
     
  18. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Actually- there is. If I claim there is something of which there isn't, that is the very definition of dishonesty.
    You probably believe that is not the case because you are not even honest with yourself.
    Very rarely is the military ever involved. Back during the Cold War, the military had 'eyes on' due to fears of surveillance. They looked into certain cases that may have been a spy job. Other than that, the military had no involvement in most ordinary UFO claims.
    About the only party interested in "verification" are rabid believers that seek to verify their preconceptions and not actively investigate claims that will undermine their belief.
    And yet, many, many are very much aliens with big google eyes and sticky out ears. Simply saying a sentence does nothing. Where is this overwhelming evidence? I would have thought you would be providing it in full force to show me how wrong I am.
    They have something to do with human nature. To make claims that get them attention and fame, interviews and time on T.V. To impress others, as if to say their in on same grand secret.
    That spawned the Robertson Panel. Third Party Verification.
    The results concluded mundane causes of claims and dismissed the vast majority of claims. Those that remained were simply "Unidentified," and not "Identified as alien spacecraft." The review was not to determine if we were being visited but if we were being spied on and concerns of National Security over District Of Columbia, considering national threats and potential to drop bombs on the White House.
     
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  20. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    So instead of a UFO nut's website, it's a UFO nut's youtube.
     
  21. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Yeah, still waiting on that overwhelming evidence...
     
  22. river

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    so let me get this straight

    I assume you whatched the video and you still think that UFO's are a figment of ones imagination ?
     
  23. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Weird isn't it, how a sensationalist video with misrepresentations and a general bias and no hard evidence fails to convince, huh?
    That video is about an hour long. After a while if it giving claims, lots of talk and nothing substantial, I considered myself unswayed.

    I don't think UFO's in general are a figment of imagination. I think alien visitors are, though.
     

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