Drugs - Yes or No?

Discussion in 'About the Members' started by darksidZz, Apr 17, 2007.

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Poll closed May 4, 2007.
  1. I've tried them; But no longer use any

    25.0%
  2. I've tried them; I continue using them

    12.5%
  3. I've tried them; I am addicted

    25.0%
  4. I've never used any

    37.5%
  1. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    This Poll is Baloney.
     
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  3. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I know about drugs, my brother does them.
     
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  5. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly what is it you think you know about drugs?:bugeye::m:
     
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  7. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    This is a quote you should use, referring to a younger sibling, in answering questions when they teach drug awareness in school.
     
  8. wroberson Registered Member

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    The small sample size goes against most AP polls and polls of 7th and 8th graders.

    I smoke pot and I grow my own. I justify it two ways. It's a daily source of entertainment, so I should grow my own.

    For every 50 bucks I don't give to a drug dealer, 1 illegal gun stays out of the hands of a teenager.

    I do not drink alcohol or use any other illicit drugs. I have in the past, from LSD to opium and cocaine. But the gateway effect never took off with me.

    Currently 17 states in the US have legal marijuana for medical use.
    In US Congress, there is a Bill to legalize marijuana in the USA.
    In Colorado. A voter initiative will be on the ballot in November to legalize marijuana in Colorado.
    Illinois is too corrupt to do just about anything.

    I do not condone drug use. Drugs effect each individual differently. While I may get a nice couchlock and relaxing stone from some kind bud, another person might end up climbing the walls in fear.
     
  9. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Ya know...I would have never guessed that.

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  10. Chipz Banned Banned

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    I truly believe people with psychiatric disorders which manifest themselves primarily in anxiety truly do benefit from marijuana. They don't require heavy doses of "chronic" [like most pharmaceutical labs grow], it's ironic that our pharmacy's grow the only marijuana rightfully called a drug. Personally, I will not smoke strong stuff ever. I truly attribute very very light use to lowering my blood pressure and reducing my anxiety levels without negatively affecting my daily productivity.
     
  11. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    It's been my observation that marijuana puts a damper on left-brain activity (logic), thereby knocking off ten or twenty IQ points. Therefore people with low IQs should not use it, because they'll end up as dumb as George Bush and forget how to operate the microwave oven safely.

    For people with high IQs, it gives their right hemisphere a chance to take more control without turning them into babbling idiots. I have known many engineers, software developers, attorneys, etc., who get high and start painting, writing stories, composing music, etc., because they've escaped the stranglehold of the left hemisphere that reduces the entire universe to a flowchart.

    They remember the things they created so when they're not stoned they can go back and polish it up.

    People also discover nuances in songs, films, their garden, etc. And again, when they're not stoned they still remember those discoveries so they can revisit them. They claim that the experience has enriched their life by making them more whole.

    One of the attorneys said he always made a point of getting stoned and reviewing a case before a trial. He'd often see something he'd missed before, which then helped him win the case.
     
  12. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    ^One doesn't need drugs for that.
     
  13. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    SOME, don't..

    overall i think it is those that have no experience with it that are too focused on their FEAR of it that are causing all the problems with it..

    i have not heard ANYONE who has experience with marijuana speak out against it..that alone should be enough to convince those that do not have experience with it, to realize that it isn't a 'Bad' drug..

    as opposed to other drugs that those that have used HAVE spoken against..
     
  14. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Good point. I remember all the way back to the mid-1960s, when it started becoming popular. Never once heard anybody say a bad thing about it. The worst criticism was, "I don't feel anything. Shouldn't I be feeling something by now?"

    Okay, and some people complained that it made them eat too much. But as far as I could tell from my observations of those people, just waking up in the morning made them eat too much.

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  15. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    All this anecdotal- I'll add my own.

    I've heard nothing but bad things about it, including:
    It's distracting. This is a primary complaint I've heard from those that use it.
    The distraction of using it caused those that used it to cause mishaps or make grievous errors in judgment they normally would not have made, they claim. Like any drug, they failed to avoid using it when operating machinery- or associating with questionable characters in a night life setting.

    It makes them nauseous or feel physically ill. Many who don't use but used to cite this as why they no longer use.

    One guy I know heavily lamented how he was addicted to it. I even asked him, "Are you sure you're addicted?" He wasn't in denial in the least- he was adamant that he was addicted to it and he wished he wasn't.

    I've not bothered with any complaints that relate to consequences of laws.
     
  16. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Not at all. What puts me off is the idea that drugs would be just another boring experience - even though so hyped up by some people.
     
  17. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    I won't complain much, but about 20-25 years ago marijuana started putting me to sleep about an hour after smoking. So I just stopped using, but my still using friends kept passing me the joint with a very annoying "come on take a hit". When I stopped there was no withdrawal or even an urge to smoke it. So when someone tells me they are addicted to it. I just can't believe it because of my personal experience.
     
  18. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    Ya, ya…so they say. Carl Sagan was even a user and advocate. He wrote an essay using the pseudonym "Mr. X" explaining how it enhanced sensual and intellectual experiences, but the weight of scientific and clinical evidence suggests that long-term drug use exert mostly negative effects on creativity. Just because writers, artists, actors, musicians, or even scientists may write about their experience with drugs does not necessarily mean that drugs are essential for the creative process.

    Hmm…on second thought, maybe we should get a few string theorists stoned and see what they come with. “Dude, where’s my car?” “Umm…I dunno, but check this out. What if, the great attractor is what entangles everything and the great attractor is a giant cosmic string?” “Whoa, dude. That’s it. That’s the answer. You’re a friggin genius, man, but where’s our car?”
    I tried it once when I was younger, does that count? It was a horrible experience. I had never heard of someone dying from marijuana but it felt like I might. My girlfriend and I were bored. My brother, an experienced stoner, suggested that we get stoned. All he had was shake but he thought it would be strong enough. We smoked one joint, but didn’t feel a thing. So, he suggested smoking another. We still didn’t feel the effects. Then we decided to drive to Denny’s to get some breakfast. While sitting at the counter, it suddenly hit us. I couldn’t even figure out if the position I was sitting in was normal. I kept changing my position trying to figure out how I normally sit. My girlfriend ordered French fries with fry sauce. She was wearing white pants, and with every bite, she was dropping fry sauce onto her pants. There were about fifty drops on the front of her pants and I could not for the life of me, figure out if this was normal. Right then, four cops that knew us walked in. I started laughing at my girlfriend’s polka dotted pants. She started getting really pissed because I couldn’t stop and the cops were there. Eventually, we managed to make it past them and out the door. I was young and stupid, and drove home stoned. It definitely impaired my driving ability. It altered my perception of distance and time. The damn stop sign kept jumping forward. I didn’t think I was ever going to reach it. It was my first and only time, and they do say you build up a tolerance, but whatever. Some people believe that they can drive perfectly fine when they’re stoned, but I don’t think a stoner qualifies as good defensive driver, do you?

    Smoke and Mirrors: Driving While High on Marijuana Doubles One’s Chances of a Serious Car Crash

    Marijuana While Driving

    You know what really chaps my ass. Tobacco is one of the most highly regulated forms of marketing. It’s also reduced in television shows and yet, weed is sprouting up everywhere.

    Jake and Eldridge Get High
     
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  19. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    I have been told so many times that i believe it..that i drive better when i am stoned..

    I smoke cigarettes, and i would not mind them reversing the trend..make cigarettes illegal and pot legal..
     
  20. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    Legalization is a whole other topic but even Prop 19 was defeated in California. Even if the proposition had passed, weed would still be illegal under federal law via the Controlled Substances Act.

    The Controlled Substances Act is the Department of Health and Human Services (through the Food and Drug Administration and the National Institute on Drug Abuse), not the DEA, which has the legal responsibility to make scientific and medical determinations with respect to drug scheduling; no drug can be scheduled if the Secretary of Health and Human Services recommends against it on a scientific or medical basis, and no drug can be placed in the most restrictive schedule (Schedule I) if DHHS finds that the drug has an accepted medical use.

    “The medical and scientific evaluations are binding to the DEA with respect to scientific and medical matters. The recommendation on scheduling is binding only to the extent that if HHS recommends that the substance not be controlled, the DEA may not control the substance.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act#Enforcement_authority

    Sorry, little stoner, but it looks like it will remain illegal until the scientific opinion changes.
     
  21. Chipz Banned Banned

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    Jeez.. someone did a real brainwashing number on you. There are smart people around the world who benefit from marijuana, sorry if that's not okay with.

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  22. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, Chipz.

    I'm from the Emerald Triangle. I live it. I was just pointing out that the DEA should not be the fall guy. Hey...smoke it, grow it, whatever. Just keep it off public lands, and if it makes you lazy and unmotivated, don't ask for handouts.

    Cheers!
     
  23. R1D2 many leagues under the sea. Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe in Amsterdam.
    An what about all those collage educated athletes. Like footballers an bicyclists (Lance Armstrong) an baseball players (clements) on others. They get in real trouble they don't benefit at all..
     

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