Gravity is Energy moving towards lower Energy

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by Pincho Paxton, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    There's no connection between your posts and science, save for possibly your need to seek a mental health professional.
     
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  3. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Pincho,

    I think yoour idea has some serious validity. Especially since recently, as you probably know from a reasonably uninterrupted, non-trolled discussion elsewhere, I managed to conceptualize a new polyhedron to exemplify the quantification through, eventually, use of figurate numreation and its relationship to the fine structure constant. I'll start a similar discussion at jootbox where trolls are not tolerated, same as naziism in science by the mainstream is similarly not tolerated.

    What you are referring to here has generated quite a bit of thought concerning dark matter. If energy in dark matter is currently an inversion of photons, probably traveling at super or even hyperlightspeed, were it to invert, it could do exactly as you say and head straight for low energy areas.
     
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  5. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Pincho doesn't live here anymore.

    Come on, really? Which part?

    Oh, I see why you think Pincho's ideas are valid you speak the same language.

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    Enjoy yourselves!

    People who dissagree with Pincho are nazis? - yikes!

    Whoa that is heavy! Chewy, switch to hyperlight speed, we'll give those Corrilian battlescrusers a run for their money!!!

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  7. AlphaNumeric Fully ionized Registered Senior Member

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    HectorDecimal, you must be a poe. You cannot seriously think what you just said is anything other than mindless gibberish.
     
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  9. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    Answer the questions people ask you instead if accusing them of bullying and you wouldn't have anything to worry about. Instead you call people names and attach false labels to them for questioning you instead of defending your position intelligently. If anyone here is a bully it is you.
     
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  10. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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  11. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    ? How are threats of bodily harm (which no one has threatened you with btw) anything other then bullying? You also did not answer my question:

    "Let me break it down for you. E=mc^2 right? But do you really understand what that means? It means that the energy of an object = its mass times the speed of light squared. In otherwords matter and energy are interchangable. How the hell can you get energy moving toward lower energy when both are objects are very energetic? The sun and the earth actually attract eachother, but the sun more so because it is much more massive. How to you reconcile that with the OP?"

    SO, how do you reconcile the observed behavior of gravity with the statement made by the op, which completely contridicts every observation ever made about gravity????
     
  12. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    How on earth did you get a threat of bodily harm out of that? This is what I mean by "Johnny can't read (comprehensively)." Either that or you intentionally pervert the words said by either Pincho or me and likely quite a few others.

    YOUR turn to provide these stinking references you worship so fervently. Show me exactly what these observations are and I'll provide you with a discussion in philosophical logic terms as to why they are meaningless. Pincho is intrinsically correct.

    Regardless, he's a pretty decent mind and has been harrassed off the forum. Not every math person is a bean counter. Some are logicists.
     
  13. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    The earth goes around the sun and moon goes around the earth and all the other intersolar objects also go around the sun (hint because it's more massive)? Is that not proof enough?? Lay your "philosophical argument" on me on why this is incorrect. We would all love to hear it I'm sure.

    Also, how does this comment not equate to bodily harm:

    "You cowards drove a perfectly good mind away, but you are too cowardly to come to my real world door and try bullying ME on my own real world turf. You're all so brave when you're out of range."

    The term OUT OF RANGE is a clear indication of your want to SHOOT SOMEONE how else could it be interpreted exactly? "Come to my real world door and try bullying me on my own real world turf" What could that statement possibly mean but come to my house an fight me????

    Seriously, I'm starting to think that you're about 15 years old making statements like that. It would also explain why don't understand that just because you can think something doesn't make it correct or real. I'm thinking about unicorns right now and still nothing

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  14. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Or what about

    Oh goody philospical logic. Just the thing when discussing physics and the real world.:bravo:
     
  15. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Don't suppose it JUST MIGHT mean I listen to Roger Waters' "Amused to Death?"... and quote about "the monkey writing in his book?"

    Don't suppose it JUST MIGHT mean I'd open the door and invite someone in for a joint and to push a game of chess? Don't suppose it JUST MIGHT mean "I don't think you'd last 10 posts at my forum where bullying and trolling is not tolerated?"

    No. YOU lay your links to all these observations. I can't wait to see what archaic "science" you guys bring in. All I've seen so far is BS.

    Thank you. I'd like to be 15 again. Unfortunately you guys act like spoiled 3 year old brats that Mommy keeps you occupied with a computer equipped with voice recognition harware-software because you obviously can't read or write worth the contents of a clogged sewer pipe. All you can offer is the same response as any 3 year old brat who finally learned how to say "No it isn't!" to everything you try to explain. At least 5 year olds ask "What's this?" and... well... none of you have reached the 5th grade level yet...

    Go C&P your examples of what causes gravity, or at least all these observations you shot your mouth off about.

    Oh... and Alex? GFY!
     
  16. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    I did not spread hatred. I said that your conjectures are basically goofy, which I believe they are. I do not hate or even dislike you - hell, I don't even know you!

    You hope I have heart attack or get tortured to death? Geeze, I think you're a sick person and need some help.
     
  17. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    I actually feel bad now (being VERY serious here). Did you have any kind of formal education at all? I mean you can obviously read and write, but do you know any math or science? These things that I have written should not require any sort of links to prove, they are general knowledge that any 5th grader could give you.
     
  18. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Sounds about like something I've said earlier to you.

    In fact I'm simply fed up with those who don't have the first original thought about much of anything at all, trampling my thoughts because they are original and they don't have the ability to stretch their imagination enough to comprehend them. Worse yet, if what was on the net yesterday isn't there today and I bring up a thought referring to it, I'm treated like a liar under the guise of defining my words as pseudoscience. When you dig into someone like that, essentially "pushing their buttons" it's nothing short of bullying. bullying is a form of hatred. Bullying is sick. Denying that or you actions that equate to bullying is even sicker yet.

    Pincho's mildly dyslexic, original thinking was fanny wacked. Fanny wacking originates from hatred manifest as bullying. Yes. I hope to God you bullies either change or die off. Sooner or later, devoid of the former, bullies will achieve the Darwin Award, thus the latter.
     
  19. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    I have a BScME and hold a recognized honorary doctorate. I don't need the links. I simply want to see what you are going to provide as a reference to back up your statement. You said, essentially, there are observations that contradict the launch post. All you mentioned, concerning orbits of the planets, tends to validate the launch post. Mercury, for example, requires far more energy than the Earth to maintain its orbit, though less energy to achieve its radius.
     
  20. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah you said a lot of things, but I did not state that you are sick until you hoped for a stranger to be tortured to death.

    It is not that I can't stretch my imagination it is that fact that your ideas are simply wild conjectures with no causal effect. I took the time to present some real data looking for a corellation between sunspots and earthquakes (something you couldn't take the time to do for your own idea) and your response is that you wouldn't look at it. Talk about close minded.

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    I don't think you have been called a liar. Your ideas are firmly in the realm of pseudoscience though. That fits right in with your refusal to look at data - pseudoscience hates data!

    Nah, it is frustration. New ideas are fine but there needs to be some sort of evidence to go with it. You would not give evidence when asked and then you would say things like 'Mt Etna is erupting because of the solar flare yesterday'.

    His original thinking had zero basis in reality. He was asked for any evidence and he would talk about bubbles and his model which he would say existed or not depending on the day you asked him. That is why he was whacked. The more he was asked for evidence the crazier his claims got - people got frustrated with trying to have a conversation with someone who refused to use logic.

    I sincerly believe nobody hates Pincho. I think there may even be some fondness for him. He was sort of cute in his own frustrating way.

    Wow agian with the death wishes? I guess I don't think you are sick, you are just a child.

    Were you bullied on the playground?

    If you do not want your ideas challenged and just want people to say, 'wow that's a great idea', then you should go to that site you mentioned earlier and hang out with pincho. If you present ideas in science forums with nothing to back it up except hand waving you are just going to have to expect some rather exhuberant push back.

    Maybe you should just grow up a little bit.

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  21. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    This should clear it up for you:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit

    The lighter and less massive (I.E. less gravity, and less energy) planets comets, ext.. are actually in constant free fall toward the far more massive sun (I.E. more gravity, more energy). It is less energy moveing toward more energy which is the exact opposite of the OP.
     
  22. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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    I thought pincho was kind of funny honestly, especially when he wasn't talking about his theories, but sometimes funnier when he was

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    , especially when you could literally see the smoke come of the peoples ears who were arguing with him LOL.
     
  23. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Did Mommy help you compose all that? Oh that's right. The 3 year old "No it isn't!" only comes from a 3 year old mind. Same mentality as "Nya! Nya! Same to you!"

    The thought has occurred to me that maybe you ARE already working from a computer in a mental ward. Unforunately, I really don't have time to participate in your socialization thera-pee.

    If I want to wish death upon useless cyberbullies as you are demonstrating yourself to be, that's my 1st amendment right. You've contributed nothing but disruption to any of my threads and to this one. You wouldn't know the difference between true science and false science if each came up and bit you on opposite ears.

    Anyone can snap a picture with a camera, but only a chosen few can illustrate it. I studied oil painting from a well known oil painter who taught us all this:

    "The camera doesn't lie. It just doesn't tell all the truth."

    The artist tells all the truth.
     

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