don't take this as an attack, but that's rather idiotic. you don't have to know the president personally to know what has happened in the past and see what's going on now. soldiers were given specific orders to stay out of it when the iraqi people were being slaughtered. they wanted to help but couldn't. ironic since the president just told iraqi soldiers to not follow orders. US had just finished up its business there protecting its oil source; when its own interests were taken care of they ignored the people dying and begging for help. so you see it is very easy to draw the conclusion that the bush admin couldn't give a rat's ass about iraqi civilians.
its the best first step. and if at first you dont succeed, you try, try again. think if that guy you beat with a bat knew your name, or where you lived. imagine you had known each other for years now, regardless of wether you were good friends or not (US and Iraq). you think he woulda taken a pounding, left, and never bothered you again, maybe when you didn't have a bat? most people would go get revenge. US and Iraq is notlikegetting mugged, when both parties are completely faceless, and the winner of one fight wins the entire war. so here's a way to stop violence, dont start it.
Originally posted by shadowpuppet its the best first step. and if at first you dont succeed, you try, try again. When someone kills you, don't complain to me think if that guy you beat with a bat knew your name There is a difference between beating someone with a bat, and defending yourself. Beating implies that I kept going, and I didn't. you think he woulda taken a pounding, left, and never bothered you again, maybe when you didn't have a bat? most people would go get revenge. So lets see, I have 2 choices. Be stabbed and probably die, or defend myself. Hmmm... tough one...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! US and Iraq is notlikegetting mugged, when both parties are completely faceless, and the winner of one fight wins the entire war. No, but the analogy still stands. Sometimes violence must be meet in kind. so here's a way to stop violence, dont start it. Good idea... but no reason not to finish it.
The only "justification" is for the jUSA to spread their degenerate filth to the Muslim world, to expand their cultural empire. To further the cause of judeo-christian-american hegemony. The loss of cultures or different ways of doing things (parallelism) is a great loss. For this reason, I am against it. However, in a sense I feel that this war MUST happen so that the world can finally see what the west has truly become.
There are an infinite number of arguments, some even sane ones. Many are animalistic and self serving but of course such Id is what makes the world go round. (in a metaphorical sense) If we play our cards right we will have materialistic gain. A minor one, not enough to justify war by itself, but still enough to alleviate some of the potential costs. If we defete Saddam and his minions we will have one less thing in the world to fear. We can get away with it. It would take the unified forces of all the world to stop the US with force and even then we would take all civilization with us. If we left him be his power would swell and his successors would be seriously contending with us for control. Likly they would go imperiallistic and try to annex most of the middle east, seizing control of most of the world's oil. We are safe from monopoly as long as production is split between several different countries. Saddam, leader of a minor country, acts as if he is superior to the US. That is a threat to our pride and makes us want to jam that moustach down his miserable little throat. Target practice.
ya sure, freedom sure is filth. the US is one of the best nations because I can stand up in a public area an yell "BUSH IS AN IDIOT". try that in iraq, but replace bush with saddam. the poorest american is way better off than most iraqi. saddam is a tyrant that could help terrorists, don't yall want to see him out? maybe ya'll need to spend a month in iraq to get the picture. but no, you type all your comments at the comfort of home in a most likely democratic nation. saddam wants to control all of the middle east, he is just like hitler. all of israil have gas masks because they know saddam will use nerve gases on them.
Now remind us all just how many Muslim's there are in the world. Your fear is unwarranted. Your hate filled statements eerily "parallel" most Muslim extremists.
Greg You are way off in your last comment. Last night I watched an Isreali minister say they would have been happy to leave things as they are with iraq...keep an eye on it but they didn't see it as a threat. Saddam and al queda (sp?) aren't exactly friends....I'll let you in on a little secret there are MUCH better places to get WMD's then iraq...shit even if all reports are true Iraq is still developing nukes...russia has stockpiles of decommissioned warheads, nuclear sub fleets etc, they can't afford to get rid of them, they can't even afford to pay the people who are resposible for the security on these sites...it doesn't take a genious to figure out that if you are a terrroist and cashed up you go to the place that HAS the supply, and is easily bought (I mean the officals and security). Disarming Saddam isn't going to do anything for global security. And even if russia and ex USSR states are taken out of the equation...what about that member of the axis of evil Noth Korea?? hell you can almost add France to the list of willing suppliers.
rambler, lets just all kill ourselves and get this over with, because I sure as hell hate this shit well sure the israli's don't want to provoke anything nor say they are scared of him
Liberal/christian ideologies = death of what is worthy in humanity. If that's the case, he deserves a medal. See above statement.
*bites head off of cobra commander* (actually Id rather see Cobra in charge of the world than alQuaida. Less chance for stagnation.)
YKJ, you seem to misunderstand. It wasn't a cop-out. Greg assumed that we all understand that you are an idiot and decided to introduce some humor. Have a nice day.
When they can't address your points, they give up and call you an idiot. Typical liberal humanist behavior.
