Lying, "The last defense of a desperate fascist--BUSH!

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  1. TheAZCowBoy Banned Banned

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    Lying, "The last bastion of a desperate fascist--BUSH!

    I remember when the US president was addressed as "The Honorable" and so were the members of the US Congress. Today, these sordid AIPAC harlots and Poster Boys are addressed for what they are: "liars, cheaters, abolute AIPAC/ZOA bag men and unmitigated con men--like my senators, John McCain-R AZ. and Jon Kyle-R AZ., two of the leading AIPAC "bagmen" in the US Congress--and if you don't believe me--check their financials for AIPAC reelection contributions. *

    * Recently, at a Phoenix, Arizona dinner, our "darling" Sen. John McCain raised $1,000,000. in an AIPAC supported reelection "fund raiser."

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    Meanwhile, please read and learn about the prez DIM BULB administration and it's J/Rat friends, advisors and MOSSAD gangsters... I mean "advisors" and creators of false documents and other "Presidential" approved as presented evidence on Iraq.

    Read, grin and bear it!

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    "Oops, that evidence was fake"
    Printed on Monday, March 17, 2003 @ 01:09:44 EST ( )

    By: Firas Al-Atraqchi
    YellowTimes.org Columnist (Canada)

    (YellowTimes.org) – During his State of the Union address on January 28th, U.S. President George Bush told the world that Iraq was importing uranium for a nuclear weapons program from Africa. He was quoting a report that British intelligence had passed on to the CIA and finally released to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The report allegedly cited documents proving that the African nation of Niger was secretly shipping 500 tons of uranium to Iraq.

    The following day, Iraqi officials cried foul saying no such deal had ever existed with Niger and that they had scrapped their nuclear ambitions in the mid-1990s.

    North American media scoffed at "Iraqi propaganda"; after all, we are reminded day in and day out that the Iraqis are pugnacious liars.

    They lied about UNSCOM, (UNMOVIC's predecessor) when they claimed it was run by a web of spies working for the CIA and the Israeli Mossad.

    Sure, they lied about that until the U.N. finally admitted that spies had taken over UNSCOM operations in Iraq:

    "Although the accusations were denied at the time, the involvement of at least the CIA was later confirmed by the U.N., by the U.S. administration and by former weapons inspectors.

    "A spokesman for the new weapons team, Unmovic (U.N. monitoring, verification and inspections commission), said yesterday that Mr. Blix has taken significant steps to try to avoid any repetition of the spying by changing the make-up of the team as well as its finances." (Ewen MacAskill, diplomatic editor for The Guardian -- Monday November 11, 2002)

    Not only was UNSCOM spying for Iraq's most bitter enemies, but it had also set up monitoring devices to track Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's movements for a likely missile strike type assassination bid.

    Operation Desert Fox, which came on the heels of UNSCOM's hasty withdrawal from Iraq in December 1998, actually targeted the security apparatus and convoys directly responsible for guarding Saddam in the hopes that he may be killed in one such strike.

    It failed. Had it succeeded, there would not have been a need for an invasion of Iraq today.

    Nevertheless, it seems that the Iraqis don't lie about everything; this time around, Iraqi allegations turned out to be true.

    And Iraqi allegations that the Niger uranium plot was fabricated also turned out to be true.

    IAEA chief Mohammed AlBaradei last week told the U.N. Security Council that the information his team received from the CIA concerning Niger was "completely unfounded." A fake, a forgery, an outright lie.

    A Voice of America News broadcast said Thursday, "the Washington Post newspaper reported the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation was looking into whether the documents had been falsified by a foreign government to boost support for a war with Iraq. The newspaper reported it did not learn what country had supplied the documents."

    CNN national security expert David Ensor told Paula Zahn on American Morning (March 14, 2003) that U.S. officials said they had received the falsified reports from the British, who in turn said they had received it from an undisclosed country.

    Apparently, signatures were forged, and a document citing a deal between Iraq and a minister of Niger in 1980 turned out to be untrue as the same said minister had not even been appointed to the government yet.

    Ensor concluded that the falsification was completely botched up. "If the U.S. was behind it," he said, "they would have done a much better job."

    If so, the question remains: how could the CIA have missed detecting the forgeries and falsification?

    According to the Guardian, "The fabrication was transparently obvious and quickly established, the sources added, suggesting that British intelligence was either easily hoodwinked or a knowing party to the deceit."

    British intelligence was certainly a knowing party to the deceit concerning the dossier on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

    "Large parts of the British Government's latest dossier on Iraq -- which allegedly draws on "intelligence material" -- were plagiarized from published academic articles, it has emerged," said Australia's The Age newspaper on February 8.

    "Much of a British dossier that Secretary of State Colin Powell cited before the U.N. Security Council Wednesday to outline what he called Iraq's deceptions was actually the work of a graduate student in California -- not that of intelligence operatives in Iraq -- an embarrassed British government said Friday," said Newsday on February 8.

    Apparently, Iraq is not the only player in games of deception.

    [Firas Al-Atraqchi, B.Sc (Physics), M.A. (Journalism and Communications), is a Canadian journalist with eleven years of experience covering Middle East issues, oil and gas markets, and the telecom industry.]

    Firas Al-Atraqchi encourages your comments: fatraqchi@YellowTimes.org

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    TAC remarks: Would the members of the MOSSAD in the Bush CHICKEN HAWK, ZioNazi, infested administrations' rats nest please raise your hands!

    ((((silence))))

    OK, Lieberman, Levin, Feinstein, Feingold, Boxer, Wolfkowitz. Perle, Ross, Tenet and Rumsfeld--raise your fr!ken hands over your heads and stand up against that wall over there and remember: "Anything you say may be used against you in a court of law, bla, bla, bla!

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    Epilog: Too bad the lying DIM BULB is immune from prosecution as the head CHICKEN HAWK and commander-in-Chief of the current fiasco in his crimes against the Iraqi people.....

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  3. Joeman Eviiiiiiiil Clown Registered Senior Member

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    Bush always says he is gonna take out saddam and he sticks with it. Iraq will be a better place after the war. There isn't going to be too many casualties during the war. The biggest problem US is going to face is how to handle all the surrendering. In last war, US had to send Iraqi soldiers back because US doesn't have place to put them. I can't imagine those soldiers being too welcomed back.
     
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  5. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    Not Saddam, but the United States of America has closed and kill the window to diplomacy. The US lied to the last minute, “we have almost the other 9 members on our side”. Bullshit, the majority speak against invasion on the microphones.
    US scapegoat, “Oh, because of France indication to vetoed”.

    The British like US on the early days, said that they’ll request a second resolution, trying to make world citizens rest assure that Invasion would have to be supported by the UN.

    As they’re loosing credibility with fake evidences (punishable by law), and the more work inspectors invest, the more obvious that there are not so many WMD in Iraq. US is desperate trying to handicap the evidence that US has been laying all along. With an Invasion, all evidences will be destroyed (unless we have planted evidence), and the world would never be the same.

    Not because the world will change, but because the views and values of US will be destroyed and anti-American resentment at all levels will be universal.

    We are witnessing the “rape” in public of international law and harmony.

    One can blame the Jew’s influence or the weak Radical Arab dictator governments in Middle East, or the toilet cleaner’s type of government in most African countries. But the one that really took a stand in committing this premeditated crime is the USA.

    History will have it so.
     
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  7. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110002994

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-2380889,00.html

    http://palestinechronicle.com/article.php?story=20030131211732662


    There is absolutely no evidence. Even Hans Blix admits to no evidence.

    Those silly scientist have nothing to say either. Link

    Im looking and still no evidence.

    The UN inspectors didnt find crap.

    Those silly wacky scientist! They dont know a thing!

    Steel nothing! (Pun intended if you read the article)

    UNSCOM hasnt track anything for months.

    History will probably mention the fact that this isn't a crime. It's a crime to have kept/put him in power in the first place! Plus, history might notice that the war never ended! Thats right kiddos! NEVER! This is not a pre-emptive strike, but a resumption of hostilities. The first Gulf war ended in a cease fire. Under certain conditions, we stopped bombing Iraq. However, as Iraq has failed its UN obligations, we have intermittently resumed bombing in the last decade or so with impunity. Therefore this would just be picking up where we left off. YIPPIE!
     
  8. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    The Gallop polls indicated today that the country supports the Invasion of Iraq, and highest approve rating to Bush in country matters as well as foreign diplomacy.

    I find this rather not “very surprising”, and all the events before this invasion, by the government and by the public will help me to sleep better the moment black plastic bags
    are beginning to be delivered back home.

    Which ever way one looks at it, ignoring that it is a total violation of the UN charter it isn’t acceptable as an argument. Stopping UN personnel conducting their mandate in a difficult assignment and flowing in a positive direction. It a premeditated crime.
     
  9. Coldrake Registered Senior Member

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    France made a serious diplomatic blunder by playing its cards too soon. Should have held the veto close to the vest instead of announcing ahead of time it would do so. Gave the US an out for not going ahead with the vote in the SC.
     
  10. TheAZCowBoy Banned Banned

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    Jews fool the "Goyim" everytime!

     
  11. dkb218 Banned Banned

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    This will be my last post here at sicforums. It's been grand while it lasted by I have the need to speak to the more enlighted of my fellow humans on this planet.

    This call to war by the not so seeing folk here has made me down right sick. This CNN view of the world that some of you have... youse should be put up against that wall that AZ spoke of in the above post. While I realize the everyone has the right to their own opinion, it really boggles the mind to see how really brained washed some of you are.

    On my way out - youse seem to be so found of links, thinking that they provide evidence to support your case so I leave you happy war mongers with this.

    Counterpunch
    Who's in charge
    The Misunderstood Link
    Are We Sure We Can Get Away With It This Time?
    To Declare Pre-emptive War is to Declare a Bankruptcy of the Imagination
    Irrelevance and Credibility
    The US Gameplan for Iraq
    Bush and Hitler
    Paying Through the Nose to Kill Iraqi Kids
    Do Media Know That War Kills?
    New York Times, Networks Shun U.N. Spying Story
    Iraq's Hidden Weapons: From Allegation to Fact
    The Conventional Media Wisdom of Obedience

    If that's not enough for you happy baby killers, try some Chomsky. Here's a link that povides some of his books for FREE!

    Noam Chomsky

    The terms of political discourse typically have two meanings. One is the dictionary meaning, and the other is a meaning that is useful for serving power -- the doctrinal meaning.

    Take democracy. According to the common-sense meaning, a society is democratic to the extent that people can participate in a meaningful way in managing their affairs. But the doctrinal meaning of democracy is different -- it refers to a system in which decisions are made by sectors of the business community and related elites. The public are to be only "spectators of action," not "participants," as leading democratic theorists (in this case, Walter Lippmann) have explained. They are permitted to ratify the decisions of their betters and to lend their support to one or another of them, but not to interfere with matters -- like public policy -- that are none of their business. What Uncle Sam Really Wants Copyright © 1993 by Noam Chomsky


    Well my brain dead sheep, I pray that the war never comes to you as you wish it to come to other "innocent" people. I wish youse all the best, yada, yada, yada...or should I say bah, bah, bah...

    To those of you who have seen the truth, keep up the good fight. I no longer have the need to waste my time with sheep. Wars a coming and I fear for those of my people who neither want nor approve of the crimes about to be commited by this once great...? Okay this once great idea of a country.

    I forget to add - Peace
     
  12. dkb218 Banned Banned

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    Naw, I was only goshin, ma!

    After reading some of these post, I've decided to stay and enjoy the fun. Some of youse folks {born after 1980} seem to have been given stupid pills as childern. Let's see if me and some of my right thinking people on this site can provide the remedy to your ills. A mind is a terrible thing to waste...

    till we meet again my brain dead little sheep.
     
  13. Don H Registered Senior Member

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    You must be referring to the handful of teenage red necks here that should be "over there" if they were really sincere.
     
  14. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Don H, true. Maybe I should join the Army? Nah, they wouldn't take me. Something about people in wheel chairs just creeps them out.

    This is not a pre-emptive strike, but a resumption of hostilities. The first Gulf war ended in a cease fire. Under certain conditions, we stopped bombing Iraq. However, as Iraq has failed its UN obligations, we have intermittently resumed bombing in the last decade or so with impunity. Therefore this would just be picking up where we left off.

    Excuse me, I have to go report to my zionist leader. He told me to be at Pizza Hut by 11PM.

    Youse youse youse youse youse youse.....
     
  15. TheAZCowBoy Banned Banned

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    Wheel chairs and land mines........

    TAC: Naw, you're wrong Counsler!

    Actually, you can volunteer to clear mines in Afghanistan. There's some 1,000,000 mines to be cleared over yonder!

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    TheAZCowBoy,

    Psst, can't you take a joke, Bubba?

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  16. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    You do realize most of our mines nowadays are of the type that self destruct after a certain amount of time.
     

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