Nature of Man vs Liberal do-gooder, WTF?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by alexb123, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    I've always thought that the community should own the land that the roads are built on and should charge rent to privately competing companies who wish to either build or maintain the roads. As land is a communal resource, and everyone should get to drive on the roads for free.

    Personally? I'm advocating anarchy.

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    I think you are thinking along the right lines though. End the State monopoly on the use of force. If we want to get rid of citizens using force, and get rid of war, then we have to expect the state to quit using it as well. The only way to do that is get rid of laws.
     
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  3. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    BTW. . . the nature of man IS empathetic, as are ALL of nature's creatures.

    I don't know where everyone has gotten all of this "savage beast" shit into their heads. Life is for helping each other, and for loving one another.

    If you were hungry, and your neighbor was hungry. . . and you had a loaf of bread, are you all really telling me you would let your neighbor starve so you could live a little longer?!?

    I don't think so. It isn't in our nature. We love each other too much. We are a cooperative species by nature, no matter what brain washing they feed you in the press, schools, universities, etc.

    A study suggests primates are not the only mammals with empathy, a look at a space race in Asia, bedbug inbreeding, and two engineers giving the jump rope a spin.
     
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  5. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It's a holdover from primitive notions of nature, "red in tooth and claw"... We know too much to take that seriously now.
     
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  7. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not claiming we not emphatic, we clearly are. But what would it take for a stranger to turn on a stranger? Or a neighbour on a neighbour? A friend on a friend? Or on a loved one? Would a perfect storm, turn us on each other, if it became in our best interests?

    Spider you claim we know too much, I would say we have forgotten too much.

    WWI/II, war that still go on today. There are many experiments that have also exposed the underbelly of man, and they don't paint a good picture, Stanford prison, Milgram etc.

    I personally think we have been wrapped in cotton-wool by false economics which gave us toys to play with. Edward Bernays has shaped a large part of the modern consumer society and he believed man was a beast that needed taming.

    We have had it too easy for too long. We cannot say we understand the nature of modern man when time become really harsh. To claim we do would be foolish. I don't claim I'm correct, but I do know for sure it would be dangerous to dismiss.
     
  8. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    I need to go to bed now...but consider this:
    In our tribal past, a human alone was generally a dead human fairly fast.

    ...But OTOH...
    We're socialized now to compete.
    I bet we'd be a lot more vicious than hunter-gatherers.
     
  9. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    Chimp exactly, the answer here is, we don't know.

    And what exactly would the modern hunter-gatherer hunt for? Plasma TV's like in the recent UK riots?
     
  10. DragonSlay Registered Member

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    liberal do-gooders are trying to save human from an another human. Cannibalism is not allowed in human society.
     
  11. Diode-Man Awesome User Title Registered Senior Member

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    The do-gooders are taking over.

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    More power to them!
     
  12. river

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    actually I find it more about conservatives

    of course not you savage idiot
     
  13. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I will have peace. By conquest, or by consent. If the savage can't be civil the savage must be caged for his savagery.
     
  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Good must be done to him, willing or not.
     
  15. kwhilborn Banned Banned

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    I like helping people. Man is savage? God help your kids. Teaching them nonsense like that will surely help them in life.

    I better explain that is sarcasm, anybody who thinks we are savages might need that explained.

    I feel happy when I help people, and cannot imagine even wanting to be "savage". I make good money and I don't need to step on toes to do it.
     
  16. Robittybob1 Banned Banned

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    All hail the Captain!
     
  17. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    The liberal do gooders are full of misguided compassion. They sincerely try to fix problems out of compassion, but what often happens, is they create worse problems due to being misguided. Liberal do-gooder reminds me of the dumb blond, who may have a good heart and intent but lacks all common sense.
     
  18. arauca Banned Banned

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    Would you say the world would be better ir there would nit be any do gooders ?

    Would you say of see some one stranded on the road , I should not help them ?
    I am happy if I ask for a direction and they point me the road, So I do the same for other people
     
  19. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    I disagree with all ridicule against or disdain for humanitarian causes and the groups who support them.

    I also think the example of in-cell plumbing is naive as to the actual horrors prisoners of supposedly civilized nations are facing daily. The assessed punishment is a period of confinement, not torture. But torture is the norm, or at least accepted. Anyone who wants to run a prison like a torture chamber is a sadist and needs treatment.

    There is a simple explanation for "do-gooding", as you call it: it's the law. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, for example. No person shall discriminate against any other in employment, housing, or access to public facilities, on account of race, religion, gender, age, sexual orientation or disability. No person, while acting under color of state law, shall deprive any other person of his or her federally-protected civil rights. No person shall retaliate against another for "blowing the whistle" on any other person or entity. Sexual harassment in the workplace is prohibited. And so on.

    I fear the parties and politics that chide the humanitarian cause and minimize the plight of weak and vulnerable members of society. I fear these groups because they seem one step away from the "good old boy" clubs of the Jim Crow era (US era of racism), and the derision that seeps into their slogans is common to hate groups, particularly Neo-Nazis, the KKK, fascists and bullies in general.

    To this Barack Obama says: We don't do that because that's not who we are.

    My sentiments exactly.
     

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