Will the U.S. be humane in the Event of War?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Empty Dragon, Mar 14, 2003.

  1. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    Will the U.S. be humane in the Event of War? I really don't think so. (They are advertising the Mother of All bombs. ) Traditionaly the United Stated Army have been viewed as Rape and pilagers. So is there any possibility that this time will be different?
     
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  3. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    It will all look fine on CNN. We'll only have to shoot the al-Jhazeerah viewers- their ratings will go down anyway, once we kill 30,000 or so of them.
     
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  7. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    Were there ever a record in history of us being Humane?

    Like with Afghanistan and dozens of other examples. It will be after the storm that we will be able to measure USA’s level if inhumanity!!

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  8. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    This is the time to be Humane. In the event of war, it's too late to be humane.
     
  9. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    Agreed but it seems that the U.S. Gov is hell bent on going to war. Whether they are right or not. Can't you guys impeach Bush or something? Can there be anything done to prevent war.

    I have even come across an article on Scifroums from the Times webs site where the governent admited to using econmic pressure as well as other pressure points to sway the votes of other nations. I mean that is insane, how is Bush any differnet then Saddam or Osama for that matter?

    Seriously in Canada we have problems with our polticians getting in trouble for calling the U.S. governments idiots. This is painfully obvious and it can be proven. Why is the U.S. sad human rights record not brough into the debate. It is a factor.
     
  10. Psycho-Cannon Home grown and Psycho Registered Senior Member

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    Theres talk of impeaching bush but it wont be in time to stop this war.
    And afterwards hey america will have the oil so the powers that be wont care about ol dubbbya anymore.
    At the end of the day Dubbya is as much a puppet as the regiems America supports.
    You think a man with an IQ as low as Dubbya can run the US of A...granted no he cant and its falling apart at the seems and still he tears more holes in it ^_^ but ya think they would let him stay, or that those speaches are his..the guy who cant even speak engl...sorry..american...when he learnt a new word *Hispanic* i was pissing myself laughing at how often he threw it into conversations despite how inapropriate or irrelevant it is just to show hes smart and learnt a new word lol.
    If he is empeached after the war...what good does it do...America has the oil rights and the money from its contracts and is now tied to Iraq, the one to replace him will simply say im sorry for his actions...and carry on milking his cow as it were.
    The whole system needs to change.

    I mean in a country where Business runs the government and an environment where they keep apealing to their millitary to solve problems, one where they can assasinate their own president or rig elections to get who they want in the white house....you cant just keep changing its face and expect it to be a different system.

    America needs to wake up and stop plowing all its economy into weapons, stop encouraging violence around the globe to secure its "interests" and help real sollutions, stop undermining international bodies like the UN and ICC and co-operate totally to make them efficient, just as the bodies like the UN need to grow a freaking backbone and stop playing hostage to bullies like the US.
    It needs to stop using its economy to hurt countries it "doesnt like" and make a real effort to improving not only its own citizens lives, the health and education system in america is a joke imho.
    It also needs to make REAL! contributions to world health, not selling off countries to big business or tying their promises of aid into finance packages or to profit.
    Even Britain seems to be slipping back down the road of fixing its problems by War and that needs to be niped in the bud.
    Also they really need to stop the draconian death penalty, especially as they have the system so well and truely screwed up and corrupted even if they slap down any critisicm the statistics speak for themselves.

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/apr2002/illi-a27.shtml
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/mar2002/exec-m14.shtml

    And there are many worse stories than that.
    With so many of the "Democracies" going so badly wrong you have to wonder, has the world really gone to shit.
    *me looks for the emergency glass to push the button that ends the world*, tis for the good of us all.
     
  11. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Dragon, In true American fashion, I expect leaks of internal policies undermining the rights of American citizens will cause an impeachment crisis, unless the occupation goes badly and re-election looks impossible. In that case, all 3 visible branches of the government will quietly agree to attempt to let it slide. But with world opinion heading where it is, it probably won't.
     
  12. Empty Dragon Empty Registered Senior Member

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    If the problem is business, then there is a simple solution. Make it no longer profitable to be well evil. More and more of the general population support green technologies, less child labor and equality amoung all nations. So the smart business man would appeal to these growing trends. It would be wise to feed them because you can make allot of money and enter a virgin market. That seems fairly profitable. The slow die fast in the business world. The business world is easy to munipulate because we have a direct say in what happends (We buy there stuff). This society is a consumer culture, just show them what they want it they will buy it. The same can work for peace. Make it unprofitable. Seriously do you think wise international corporation would rely on a country that black mails them every time they go to war? It is not profitable.

    Each time you buy something you are casting a vote.
     
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    After the occupation is complete the war of attrition wil continue much like an extended Viet Nam war.

    The hope of financing the war with Iraqi oil will fall short of all expectaions from sanctions by Europe Russia and China as well as sabotage and impedence of delivering the oil EVERY step of the way.

    We will claim victory yet be financially ruined.
     
  15. SuperFudd Registered Senior Member

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    As for It becoming a Viet Nam type atrition situation, I think not.
    We now have the capability of turning the jungles of Iraq into a desert.
    No one is going to sanction us (US). Get real!
    Besides, we can finance the war with tax cuts.
     
  16. Chris63 Registered Senior Member

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  17. Weisse Bora Registered Member

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    What?

    What is humane about war?
     
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  19. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    We will be extremely humane. We will not drop nukes or daisycutters or Moabs in the middle of Baghdad. We will not have any concentration camps where we gass prisoners. We will not, ahem, torture anyone and then rape their loved ones in front of them and then cut out their eyes and drag them through the street on a meathook.

    If we want to be really cruel we will just repair their city infrastructure, give them a democratic government, and free protection from their neighbors once we get in.
     
  20. firdroirich A friend of The Friends Registered Senior Member

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    Kinda hard when Iraqi soldiers will have women & children. Before you spin me the yarn about the rules of engagement blah blah about civilians turning to combatants as soon as they fire on troops the fact remains that a lot of "grey area" stuff will go on that we'll never hear cause it's hard to get these situations right everytime a kid walks up to a soldier whose been in combat & scared he'll blow up like his buddy before him. You really reckon it will be humane out there? Kill 'em - but humanely
     
  21. Coldrake Registered Senior Member

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    There is no tradition of rape and pilllaging in the US army.
     
  22. justiceusa Registered Senior Member

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    There have been a number of things listed here that "we will not do". Are any of you aware of the things that "we will do"? The daisycutter is a terrible weapon. Even experienced Marines were shocked by looking at the bodies of Iraqi soldiers who were killed by daiseycutters in GW1.

    The aftermath of a daisycutter can leave behaind a vacuum that can actully make a persons eyes pop out of their head while they are at the same time suffocating. cheers
     
  23. *stRgrL* Kicks ass Valued Senior Member

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    NEATO! Can we blanket the country in nerve gas like Saddam did? Huh huh can we can we????
     

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