By LAW,should Spontaneous Human Combustion be mentioned in all reliable Medicalbooks?

No, if there's a mistake during cell respiration, atoms/ions may loose too many or gain too many electrons, flipping it back into an element, they only exist as ions due to chance. Nobody seems to be taking this on board. I'm a 3rd-year physics student and I know about this type of thing.

 

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IT'S COLD FUSION! Well, not cold fusion; that's politically incorrect. LOW ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTIONS! Although this is pretty high energy. Maybe fat-mediated sodium fusion reactions. One fat person could fuel a reactor for months! You'll drive your old gas guzzler into the lake once you have a tubby guy in your tank!

 

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Well, you cut WAY too many classes then!!!! In short, your ENTIRE view of chemistry is NUTTY!!!!!

By the way, I worked in labs - as a professional - for years. You don't even know enough chemistry to be a lousy/lowly glassware washer! 3rd year??? NO WAY!!!

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If the Body strips electrons from elements, how come things such as Sodium or Iron..?

To my knowledge an ion becomes an element if it has equal charge (0 neither + nor -) and the body is constantly flipping them and messing with their charges so technically is it just luck that we don't blow up or sizzle from the sodium and other nasty chemicals in us becoming their original elements due to some mishap? I find it pretty scary and uncomfortable to be honest and I think this happened with a 50 year old woman in Ireland and it was in the news ._. also current/voltage in our bodies...wouldn't that mess with the charges?

 

If Spontaneous Human Combustion is a 'myth'why do we keep seeing NEWS articles on it?

two recent cases in ireland, even the coroners and forensic experts and doctors, officials etc ruled them as SHC and was in the news (Irish Times). For example a 50-year old woman found burnt with only her leg, but nothing else. there was a lot of carbon monoxide in the air which killed her cats, and cyanide in her bloodstream. she was in the sitting room with a bottle of vodka next to her body. the smoke alarm went off and that is how they found her. (SHC events seem to happen during the cold, wonder if a persons body chemistry messes up?) Cancer is like SHC, rare and uncurable, but that's highlighted in medical journals everywhere, but no mention of SHC, where the body self-ignites through some process it posesses. Why? and the wick effect is just a myth/theory and has never been proven, either. As evidenced by eye-witness cases of people seen suddenly going up in flames, or skin smoking or mysterious blisters and burns. This is killing people too, so it should be mentioned, by law.

So many things can cause SHC, neurons misfiring or firing all at once, skin cells chemical elements becoming concentrated, or energizing, methane in stomach igniting due to enzymes, water splitting into flammable compounds, generating intense heat or nuclear fusion and magnetic fields in the body and ions losing polarity due to bodily mishap (perhaps body current affecting the charge, cells split ions so they can certainly do the same and turn sodium into its pure format), hence sodium becomes elemental and burns us from the inside-out.

 

Frankly it is very difficult to explain because you have not knowldge about some very basic concepts. The short answer is don't worry you ain't gonna burst into flames.

An element is defined by the number of protons in the nucleus. An ion is refereing to the number of electron in the atom. If the electrons do not exactly match the number of protons in the nucleus then you have an ion. Sodium for instance is perfectly stable when it has 1 less electron in 'orbit' than it has protons. In other words a Sodium ion has 10 electron in shells around a nucleus that containing 11 protons. Chlorine is stable with 18 electrons in orbit around the nucleus that has 17 protons. This positively charged sodum ion and the negatively charged chloride ion readily form NaCl (salt). This is a very stable compound. When immersed in water the salt dissolves into it's constituent ions because of the polarized nature of water molecules.

It is difficult (takes energy) to change a sodium ion into a sodium atom. One way to view this is the fact that if sodium is simply placed in water it violently reacts. In other words the sodium is releasing a tremendous amount of energy when is goes from a sodium atom to a sodium ion. Here is the important part it takes the same amout of energy to be ADDED to the sodium ion to make it a sodium atom. It is very hard to make a sodium ion into a sodium atom because of the amount of energy needed to add the electron. This is not going to happen in your body. The sodium ion will remain a sodium ion.

Hope this makes sense to you.

 

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Why do we keep seeing news articles on killer asteroids when there's not any in the near future threatening us? Why do most Fox News headlines say one thing but the article end up saying the opposite?

Because people read them. This generates money.

The big myth is not that humans sometimes burn up in these cases. The myth is the "spontaneous" part...that is, you see that as meaning they're blowing up in a fireball, which is not the case at all. Almost all cases are very similar, the person shows evidence of having died beforehand, the remains show a slow burning or smoltering (the wick effect that you claim there's no proof yet has been studied and shown to explain those findings), and there was some contributing factor such as a dropped cigarette or other flame source.

 

Ireland,... right, statues of the 'Virgin' Mary on most hairpin bends, the good populace trotting off to Lourdes for a miracle,... maybe it's reported more in Ireland, because such myths are culturally more acceptable than elsewhere?

 

Although reducing cations, like sodium ions, to make the very reactive sodium metal, will not occur in life, life does make many other combustible things like methane gas and wood. If we burn methane in air, we get a hot flame explosion. The way cells do this differently, is they do their burning in water.

Water can be used to put out a fire. Cells use water as a way to control the flame, so we can get a milder energy out of fuels and not an uncontrolled flame.

 

LeBlanc, it's time to stop!

No one is buying your false claim of being a third-year physics student so it's time to stop pretending. You are either just a teen (about 14 at the most) or slightly older with a VERY poor education and/or understanding of basic science - chemistry in particular. My bet is the former: just a young kid.

All your nonsense about "skin chemicals, nuclear reaction", etc. as just that - pure nonsense!

If you want to ask questions about science, fine - go right ahead. There are plenty of people here, including me, that will be happy to help you. But cut the pretending AND the garbage!

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HOW could your intestines burst into FLAMES when there is no OXYGEN IN THEM?

Actual article from the LA Times.


"In retrospect, lighting the match was my big mistake. But I was only trying to retrieve the gerbil," Eric Tomaszewski told bemused doctors in the Severe Burns Unit of Salt Lake City Hospital.

Tomaszewski, and his homosexual partner Andrew "Kiki" Farnum, had been admitted for emergency treatment after a felching session had gone seriously wrong. "I pushed a cardboard tube up his rectum and slipped Raggot, our gerbil, in," he explained. "As usual, Kiki shouted out "Armageddon," my cue that he'd had enough. I tried to retrieve Raggot but he wouldn't come out again, so I peered into the tube and struck a match, thinking the light might attract him." At a hushed press conference, a hospital spokesman described what happened next. "The match ignited a pocket of intestinal gas and a flame shot out the tubing, igniting Mr. Tomaszewski's hair and severely burning his face. It also set fire to the gerbil's fur and whiskers which in turn ignited a larger pocket of gas further up the intestine, propelling the rodent out like a cannonball." Tomaszewski suffered second degree burns and a broken nose from the impact of the gerbil, while Farnum suffered first and second degree burns to his anus and lower intestinal tract. ''

Despite the silly scenario, WTF. Does the human stomach defy physics? My Biology teacher said there is no 02 in your intestines so why'd they burn? Not on the outside but the inside? again; wtf?

 

Ignoring the absurd setup to the question: methane.

 

Methane still needs oxygen (o2) to burn..what's your point?..

 

Good grief - how silly!!!

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The O2 got inside through the cardboard tube, of course. Sheesh!!

 

Somewhere on the net (I have no idea where atm) there exists or did exist audio file of a radio broadcast of this story. Possibly the funniest thing I have ever heard. The first time I heard it I actually fell off my chair laughing. I was something like armageddon.wav irrc. Don't have time to search for it now. I may have it saved somewhere.

Easier to find than I thought:

http://www.hoc.org.uk/gallery/funny/armageddon.wav

 

I really didn't want to have to go there. I assumed the OP starts with a gerbil that was breathing. (Good Gawd.)

 

Doesn't anyone check Snopes?