anti gravity... interesting video.

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  1. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    the reason i didn't post this in on the fringe subfora, is because the guy who made the video did a better job than to deserve that, he speaks enough facts and presents his opinions as opinions, he appears to have been battered by skeptics enough to know how to play the game.

    i'd like to see what james, prometheus, cpt bork and D among others have to say about this video.

    it might turn out to be crackpottery, but i sure learned from it and enjoyed it ten times more than wiki's page on special relativity, for starters the video's in english..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiu4W27EQ_I&feature=colike
     
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  3. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    The only thing I saw losing gravity in the video was science.
     
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  5. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    elaborate a bit..
     
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  7. 420Joey SF's Incontestable Pimp Valued Senior Member

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    I did the math. It makes sense.
     
  8. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    I did not see any basis in fact to get any meaning from the video.

    I saw speculation, legend, hearsay, things like that.
     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    It's fringe or pseudoscience.
    The guy calls on previously-debunked "examples" (Fouche, the Bell, etc...) and then says we need alchemy to derive his liquid.

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    It's crackpottery pure and simple.

    Although I did particularly like the way the guy (more than once) pretended to know more than he does (the little comments like "I won't go into that here").
    (Much like 420Joey's claim "I did the math").

    Nothing new.
    Nothing real.
     
  10. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Yes there were several code words, one big one being alchemy.

    Crock.
     
  11. scifes In withdrawal. Valued Senior Member

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    what about the liquid with zero viscosity? does such thing exist even theoretically?

    and is it true that if it does and you manage to magnetize it and drive it around till it reaches lightspeed, would that bend the space time continuum thingy and cause gravity to cease?

    personally i thought gravity was the god secret, as in physics has no idea where it comes from, it just starts off from it, from electrons around nucleus of chemistry, to moving electrons of electricity, to planetary gravity of dynamics and astronomy, gravity is how the world began, and the most elementary cause of effect in the world as we know it.
     
  12. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    *tsk*
     
  13. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    Well, we are in the Science, and Technology Forum, but I will post what I think anyway, because otherwise you only have all the negative comments, and that isn't a true indication of the possibilities. This liquid he talks about could be true. However, it can't drag much mass around with it, and it already is balancing below 50/50 on its pulling power. I'm not sure what the spin does.. The doughnut... I'm not sure about that either. But if anti-gravity ever gets manufactured, it has something to do with the condensate.
     
  14. DRZion Theoretical Experimentalist Valued Senior Member

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    I have heard of this before in a youtube video. The guy says that NASA tested this - SO, there has to be some science to support that it may be possible. NASA wouldn't be testing just anything some crackpot put on the internet.

    It seems to me it may be easier to find an alternative rather than a ferromagnetic superfluid. Both of these types substances are quite rare, taken in combination it would take a materials science genius to find. So definitely not something for an amateur to attempt. And then you have to keep all the refrigeration equipment on board of the flying craft to cool it down to 4 degrees kelvin.

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    Interestingly enough, my thread on inhibition of bremsstrahlung deals exactly with something like a ring of rotating plasma- and it shows that a rapidly rotating charged ring might inhibit bremsstrahlung (which is the main cause of energy loss in a plasma).
     
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  15. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I nearly stopped listening when he mentioned Podkletnov and Fouche, but managed to listen all the way through.

    I think he misunderstands something quite important. The Lorentz transformation. If he accelerates a mass to relativistic speeds, it's going to get heavier, not defy gravity. So the mass of Mercury/Mystery Alchemical Superfluid Yet To Be Discovered will increase as it approaches c. His apparatus will get heavier, not lighter.

    Also, there's no way he can contain a mass spinning that fast. None. It's an impossible engineering task to make the container perfect enough for that kind of rpm.

    So, let's dissect the video:

    1, he name drops people who have been debunked.
    2, he seems to have his science backwards.
    3, his 'experiment' relies on impossible engineering, and a fluid that doesn't exist.
    4, he attempts to make skeptics responsible for disproving his claims by building the impossible.
    5, he is clearly a conspiracy nutter with his tirade against NASA. Why NASA? Why not secret military scientists?
     
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