O.K. you got Me I am an Alien . I was gonna get around to telling the truth at some point . You see that movie contact with Jodi Foster . Well I came to earth and when a baby died I took the body for my self . Why did I do it I have no Idea . Fuck I don't wish this kind of stuff on no one . I guess I was just curious what it would be like to be human . It look like so much fun from up there I had to give it a go. I hope you humans are not mad about that . This is fabricated story time. I am human just as much as any of you . I am from the Earth !! Believe Me !!! I got a history behind Me to prove it and a drivers License, plus a pass port. Just because I was born at a air-force base in Alaska before it was a State don't make Me an Alien either. Just because the air-force was doing top secret shit that is still classified to this day don't prove nothing . I got a birth certificate . A real one . I am from the earth ! period!
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/06may_salmonella/ salmonella in space gets 3 to 7 times more virulent http://dudeman.net/siriusly/cyd/alh84001bact.jpg http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/..._find_life_in_tiny_martian_tunnels/index.html http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1198316...e/t/tiny-tunnels-mars-rock-hint-lifes-traces/ weird sight but that is one of the rocks found
ok cluster. we know evolution exsists so if we find life in our own galaxy or anywhere else actually of 1 celled organisms knowing how we have evolved means there is life skattered all through out the universe and can evolve.. and i think your last little bit there applies to you
I'm so sorry. I didn't realise I was dealing with an idiot. When someone says life can survive in space they are not generally talking about surviving inside the protected environment of a spacecraft. Since we have been orbiting humans on and off for 50 years I would hardly dispute that life, properly protected, can survive in space. Now do you have any evidence that life can survive - and I'll spell it out for you here - in the vacuum of space and (more detail) amid the plethora of radiation and cosmic rays, for a 'reasonable' preiod of time? The Martian meteorite ALH84001 is seriously disputed as showing any evidence of life. The consensus view is that it does not. The third example you quote is about trace fossils, not about exoskeletons. It was exoskeletons I asked you about specifically. And you have said nothing to justify this comment: "if you ask a scientist what it was and say it was from earth they would say just that.. but if you say its from mars they suddenly change there answer". Nor have you defended this uninformed remark:"and to think there is no life outside our planet is just plain ignorance."
I don't think this makes any sense, but I suppose it could be mocking arguments made by UFO believers. Anyway, taking it as serious.... Why couldn't there be aliens with a lot of capability, but not enough to control everything. IOW your argument could be used by a civilization, somewhere else in the universe, for why we could not exist. I see no reason to assume that a species with the ability to travel in space and be able to do things we are not close to doing yet, would have to have total ability and also would have to or want to eliminate all other life. I mean, if they can do anything, what the heck do they have to worry about. And if they can do quite a bit, but not everything, heck they might be curious about and learning from other species. They also might, just like we might, have morals that prohibited not allowing other life forms to emerge, etc.
The existence of extraterrestrial life forms, and especially Aliens (civilized, technologically superior, blah blah) can be speculated in either way -exist/don't exist-, and they are bound to end up equally nonsensical or very logical depending upon the "belief" system. All we need is a concrete evidence -preferably more than one evidence. Until that day, both arguments will only contribute to science fiction. Unlike God business, we perfectly know what is/could be an evidence: unnatural activity in distant space, unnatural signal, piece of code, namely, some data to prove the existence. We are desperately looking for it, because it will provide a tremendous new insight about universe and our place in it, and there is nothing in known science that eliminates the possibility of another life forms in the universe, these are correct; yet, we haven't found it/them yet.
So......... Earth was unstable for life at one point for quite a stretch of time..... Meterorites etc. crashed earth making life sustainable........ Life is made.... and this is exclusive only to earth? Why because they havent confronted us yet or we havent confronted them. Thats like my going in my back yard not seeing anybody and declaring that there is nobody there in the world besides the people in my house. LOL
Actually Guys there is a very simple reason for the postulation and any limitation in it's logic, it's irony. You see those that usually argue that aliens exist and have visited here use the exact same lack of logic and supposition, originally this was only seen because the forum was predominantly science and the "Cranks" couldn't see fault in the reasoning. The post is a reflection on playing devils advocate for the inverse angle that they can't exist and is limited to the same logic structure that many people that "Believe" actually use to argue with. So if you believe the argument isn't valid because it's not supported with real evidence, considering that it's also true of the inverse argument (The argument were people conclude aliens exist). In some respects you can conclude this is actually an exercise in defining what parameters science would apply to either argument, so think carefully Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
One point about space however is that cellular mitosis occurs at an accelerated rate when outside of a gravitational field, which has been handy for the production of cultures used to make vaccinations. (hypothetically you could take a virus known for it's speed of mutation, accelerate it further to increase the variants that you have on record and generate vaccines against each proto-version, so you'd have a "rainbow array" of vaccines for a particular viruses mutation tree.) However... Space is inhospitable, any lifeform attempting to survive outside of Homoeostasis environment is going to subjected to high radiation levels, frozen vacuums and the absence of atmosphere (That is usually associated with life, otherwise "why look in the Goldilocks belt?") If you place the two together you get this, a lab in space working on diseases and bacteria's that need to be controlled so they don't threaten a widespread epidemic, which means that should a spacelab suffer a failure, then any cultures are subjected to a hostile environment that will automatically neutralise them. (As if it's not all designed.) It also increases the need for funding to be put into utilising space further since there is the potential for cures to be made up there.
Aliens do not exist is like saying the universe was built for the sole purpose of our survival. How flawed is that. I strongly believe there are other life forms out there. Could range from molecular living cells to maybe other beings. However I doubt that they are technologically more advanced than us or if so (such a long long shot), then not much. Otherwise we would have had visitors already. I believe we are alone in the Milky way, but not the Universe.
