With Libya secured an American invasion of Africa is under way

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Aren't Americans tired of war? Or is that a dumb question?
     
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  3. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    Yeah I didn't get that one . I thought we was way to stretched out as it was . You got Me . Think I should hold off on paying Me patriotic taxes so I don't financially support it ? I don't know ? I guess all them high up yucky yucks know better than a carpenter.

    I am sure someone will say " We got to kill to not to kill . You know . Drink the blood so we don't have to drink it later . All game hogs say stuff like that . Me dad and i was making up a game hog list once . I can't remember them all but one was " They were getting away "
    Another would be " You took to long to shot so I shot for you .
    You get the idea of game hogs being in denial of game hogging .
    I don't know why there like that
     
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  5. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Covert money for the Congo resistance army.
    Is there such a thing?
    They need freedom surely.
    A no flight zone. Harmless drones taking out strategic targets, with no loss of life.
    Bombs in the Jungle.
    Ah, the nostalgia.
    But this time bigger, better, more expensive.
    More money for Daddy Warbucks.

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    Hilary Clinton, aged 10, learning where money and happiness comes from
     
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  7. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Aren't you tired of the Lord's Resistance Army? Or is that a dumb question?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

    The International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants on 8 July and 27 September 2005 against Joseph Kony, his deputy Vincent Otti, and LRA commanders Raska Lukwiya, Okot Odhiambo and Dominic Ongwen. The five LRA leaders were charged with crimes against humanity and war crimes, including murder, rape, sexual slavery, and enlisting of children as combatants. The warrants were filed under seal; public redacted versions were released on 13 October 2005.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-deploys-100-u-s-combat-troops-to-aid-africa-anti-insurgency/

    President Barack Obama said Friday he’s dispatching roughly 100 U.S. troops to central Africa to help battle the Lord’s Resistance Army, which the administration accuses of a campaign of murder, rape and kidnapping children that spans two decades.

    In a letter to Congress, Obama said the troops will act as advisers in efforts to hunt down rebel leader Joseph Kony but will not engage in combat except in self-defense.
     
  8. Bells Staff Member

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    Frankly, any force that deliberately goes after the LRA should be applauded.

    Instead of Iraq, this is where the US should have headed, if they truly cared about human rights and crimes against humanity. Better late than never I guess.

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  9. Believe Happy medium Valued Senior Member

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  10. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    You mean the several million or so Shiites, Kurds and Kuwatis that Saddam was directly responsible for killing weren't sufficient reason to get rid of him?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein's_Iraq
     
  11. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    They were sufficient reason, but they were not the reason given for the invasion.
     
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  13. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Look at a map of Uganda, and see which countries border Uganda.

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    Tanzania 2 weeks ago...

    Tanzania secures Chinese loan for gas pipeline

    Kenya 3 weeks ago...

    Kenya: Chinese Firm Offers to Finance Lamu Port Plan

    America has no more money to spend, other countries like China and the EU do, so America only has its military left to coerce other nations...You get the idea Sam
     
  14. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    So we send 100 troops to COERCE a country with a population or 32 MILLION?

    Right.
     
  15. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    China is making its move . The U.S. ? Our house is crumbling ? There is a power struggle going down and China is making a name for there country .
    I heard they got to invest there money as to stay afloat . They are making path ways to bigger securities for there future . That is what it looks like to me . They getting lots of cheerleaders along the way . Is that a false impression I am getting ?

    I just don't know Brainiacs
     
  16. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    Does it matter? You think we had much choice over whether or not to send troops to Korea? Or Vietnam? Or Granada? Or Panama? Or Iraq x2? Or Afghanistan? Or Libya? etc. etc. etc.

    The people that make the decisions about what we will do with our military machine don't give a crap about how Americans feel about it. They make the decision, and then tell the media how to make the Americans feel about it. :bugeye:


    . . . on the other hand, if the people in control aren't lucky, there could be a critical mass of people that are just going to get fed up if something isn't changed soon. . .

    People are tired of the bullshit. There will be no major mobilization on the scale of another Iraq, or Vietnam. The world is too civilized, and people just want peace. It's the leaders that want money and power. I really don't think they'll be fooled again.
     
  17. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    BS

    In May 2009, U.S. President Barack Obama signed into law the Lord's Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act, legislation aimed at stopping Joseph Kony and the LRA. The bill passed unanimously in the Senate on March 11, 2010 with 65 senators as cosponsors, then passed unanimously in the House of Representatives on May 13, 2010 with 202 representatives as cosponsors.

    So EVERY member of Congress is behind this.
    You know, the people we put there to represent us.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army
     
  18. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    Discussing with you issues of finance and banking is truly stimulating and enlightening. However, getting into a debate with you over international politics will clearly be pointless when it is clear you don't even grasp the fundamentals. Take an entry level course in interest group politics at your local university.

    I don't care what the ICC or the Senate, or even the American media says about them. You have to make a compelling enough case to the American people. And short of having this LRA group destroy an American city, I don't think the country is going to want to pay for or fight in a protracted war against Chi-com backed "terrorists" for Africa. You will need another false flag, honestly.

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    It's never about who is actually making the decisions, but about who is actually backing the decision makers. And with the President and the Senators? If you think it is American voters and tax payers, you are living in that childish fantasy world you grew up in with all those things they taught you in grammar school and high school.
     
  19. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    LOL
    Yeah, you really think they teach things at the local college that the rest of the world is ignorant about?

    You left out the House, and that's 435 members who represent fairly small areas, including a number of very liberal ones and they all voted for it as well.


    Nah, really bad guys are worth getting rid of even if they don't pose a threat to US cities.


    Who is it this week?

    The NWO?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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  21. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    No, I did not leave out the house. I purposely did not mention them. I won't get into why, because I am done having this conversation with you. As soon as you pulled out the silly straw man arguments, and displayed a characteristic ignorance of interest groups and confused them with "conspiracy theories" I think our discussion was done.
     
  22. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Wow, you actually think there is a difference between those two?

    No you left it out because since NONE of the Representatives agreed with you and so your position of "interest groups" has no legs at all.

    Unless you know an interest group that has EVERY Representative in it's pocket.

    Arthur
     
  23. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    We'll see what comes

    Yes, no, and maybe.

    Or, more specifically, I can only stand on what I said last year:

    I want Kony. I want him brought in very, very badly. But, to the one, we have yet to see how this is supposed to work. To the other, I am highly skeptical of American endeavors in the Third World; this could easily become one of those well-intended initiatives that proves disastrous.

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    I think it's one of those, "It's about time someone did something about this," initiatives. Kony is long overdue his day in court. And stabilizing Africa is key to managing future terrorist threats; the idea being that the black markets of poor Africa, including drug, gem, and human trafficking, provide some cash inflow for Al Qaeda-affiliated groups. The degree to which this is happening is unclear. But in order for Africa to have a chance of stabilizing, Kony is one of a few problems that have to be reined in.​

    I'll reserve my reservations until the hundred becomes a thousand, or starts shooting or dying.

    I want Kony that badly. We'll see what comes.
     

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