I think the victorious Libyans deserve some applause

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  1. Nobody Suspended Indefinitely Registered Senior Member

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    While the Western world can be proud it provided air support among other things it was the free people of Libya who did the most for their freedom.

    I fear in the wake of the Iraq war ending that this will be forgotten by the 24 news people in America.

    But I for one commend you and I hope others will post their praise as well.
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I'll take a wait and see attitude for the time being to see who actually will be elected.
     
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  5. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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  7. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    It is the EU pushing America out of the Mediterranean area, an economic area whose market is reliant on the EU. Whatever goverment replaces Gaddaffi it will be orientated towards the EU. Same thing happened in Tunisia and Egypt, both now have goverments which are EU centrist. As long as the US retained Gaddaffi in power, who nationalized European assets, it effectively kept Europe out to Americas content.

    No nation or Middle Easterner is blaming America, what is happening from Libya to Syria is the collapse of the US system within the Middle East. Pakistan
    wants the US out of its nation, Turkey has moved away from America, the old US client regime in Syria is being pushed out, this is the decline of America you are witnessing, America is crumbling
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    With this kind of "democracy" I really don't see many changes happening there for the better.

    "The transitional government leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil set out a vision for the post-Gadhafi future with an Islamist tint, saying that Islamic Sharia law would be the "basic source" of legislation in the country and that existing laws that contradict the teachings of Islam would be nullified."

    http://news.yahoo.com/libyas-transitional-leader-declares-liberation-155513082.html
     
  9. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Yep.

    Told yas.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    By HANNAH ALLAM

    CAIRO -- Libyan revolutionary forces are holding more than 2,500 detainees in makeshift prisons where they're subjected to beatings and languish without charges, the human rights advocacy group Amnesty International said Wednesday.

    Despite pledges of speedy prosecutions, the National Transitional Council, Libya's provisional authority since the ouster of Moammar Gadhafi, has yet to try any detainees, Amnesty said.

    In at least two cases, Amnesty said, officials in charge of detention centers ignored orders that detainees be released.

    The failure of Libya's revolutionaries to respect the rights of some of their detainees has been the frequent subject of news stories in the nearly two months since rebel forces seized control of Tripoli, but Amnesty's report, based on visits to 11 revolutionary jails, is the most systematic examination to date of the former rebels' murky and haphazard detention operation.

    Amnesty said the revolutionaries were holding detainees in former prisons, converted schools, football clubs and apartments and noted that there was little, if any, official supervision of the facilities.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/12/2451208/libyan-rebels-abuse-torture-prisoners.html

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  11. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    "What is your name?"

    "Emilio Zapata."


    Or maybe they're all bad people. Who knows.
     
  12. Workaholic Registered Senior Member

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    I think you are really reaching here. Without US support, France and Britan could never have pulled off this Libyan adventure. US support, namely naval support for attacking aircraft (refueling, resupply, have a near by base) was absolutely critical. The only difference here is the US is not PUBLICLY leading the charge, due to global blacklash against the Iraqi and Afganistan Wars.
     

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