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Discussion in 'Human Science' started by outside the box, Oct 19, 2011.

  1. Ellie Banned Banned

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    I am not asking you what it is i am asking WHAT Mitochondrial DNA did they study to come to this conclusion and how in 2012 anyone can even make such a claim.
     
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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    It's easy. Ellie prefers to stick with belief rather than facts.
     
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  5. Ellie Banned Banned

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    I have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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  7. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Er, HUMAN mtDNA.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

    Because not everyone is as happy with ignorance as you seem to be. They studied and worked hard.
     
  8. Ellie Banned Banned

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    Would you like to actually join in the discussion?
     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, because you tend to block out or forget your errors.
    Remember your claim that there's as much evidence for Jesus' existence as there is for evolution?
    Despite the fact that you couldn't provide the first and ignored the second?
     
  10. Ellie Banned Banned

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    We posted simultaneously. Maybe you do want to join.

    So they found old remains in Africa, what does that prove?

    From you link:

    Doesn't that mean they just never found remains dating that old elsewhere fromm this one supposedly dated 200,000 years ago. Not to mention it is virtually impossible to accurately date something that old.

    I just typed in some key words and came up with the link below. Serve you well to read it and others:

    http://www.voy.com/208012/9/41.html
     
  11. Ellie Banned Banned

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    Well in terms of evidence there is probably more but why focus on that?

    And remember, i never said evolution DID NOT happen.
     
  12. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    You seemt to have missed the point. ALL human mitochondrial DNA have been traced back through population and fossils to the 'old remains in Africa'. That's were everyone's ancestors originally came from.

    That's what that proves.
     
  13. Lawsinium Registered Senior Member

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    Ellie: believe here means not sure.

    Why? because before these scientists used the structure of the skull as basis to separate apes from men. However there are medical anomalies like dwarfism that makes it harder to distinguish ape from man with respect to anatomical structure, facial features and skull capacity.

    Nowadays, these speacialists use the eve genes and adam genes that determine our origin. And from their studies, they found out that we didn't even evolve from neandertals and obviously from ape-like-man.

    Take note that ape-like-man doesn't mean we came from apes.
     
  14. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Are you really saying 'why look at the evidence'?

    What else would you look at?
     
  15. Ellie Banned Banned

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    Yeas all human mitochondrial DNA because they found a human. What about human remains found in China?

    A: They just assume they never found any remains that old (for some reason).

    B: They can't even date something that old accurately, this is proven and scientists will tell you that.

    And i mean real scientist not someone who once had a fish tank.
     
  16. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Wrong.

    Yeah, read your own link:
    Over very long time spans it's maybe less than 100% accurate.
    You think carbon dating is the only method used?

    Because you persistently made a false claim.

    Correct. You just denied the evidence was evidence.
     
  17. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Human remains found in China show the same trail of mDNA leading back to Africa.

    Your point A is wrong.

    Your point B is wrong.
     
  18. Ellie Banned Banned

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    What evidence are you referring to? For what purpose would I deny evidence? What would i gain?
     
  19. Ellie Banned Banned

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    Judging from your truncated, passive aggressive responses I think our interactions will be intellectually lopsided.
     
  20. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    But you do deny evidence. What you gain is being able to cling to your beliefs without having to consider that you're wrong.
     
  21. Ellie Banned Banned

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    I cling to beliefs?
     
  22. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    I can't see any intellectual content on your side at all. Just denial, obsfucation, and outmoded beliefs.

    You asked a question and then rejected the answer, without ever having to examine any evidence.
     
  23. Lawsinium Registered Senior Member

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    Dywyddyr:

    If you want to have good discussions here....you need to show to me why my claims are wrong like why you believe that you came from ape is true and mine is worng.

    The mere fact that it is hard for you to answer that the stationary salad bowl on your table is moving, what more if I tell that everytime you look at an object, that object is you are seeing is already from its past. Or much better, what about if i tell you that a solid ball swinging like a pendulum while it hits continously a wall will totally disappear at a certain point in time or if I tell you that you don't exist at all will you believe me?

    Now of course, for an ignoramus all these claims will go to the cesspool......hahahaha.....
     

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