Humanities short glimpse of life and existence

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Neville, Feb 28, 2003.

  1. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    I thought that you thought that I thought that you said that time did exist. But perhaps you didn't. Perhaps I am at cross purposes with myself. I think I lost the plot. My apologies.

    Am I right in saying that you think time really exists because it has a vector?
     
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  3. Dana D It's all about balance Registered Senior Member

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    I think. :bugeye:


    Ya.
     
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  5. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    Therefore it does? I'm not so sure. According physics time (well, events anyway) are bi-directional and work just as well in either direction. If so we are left with entropy to define time's direction. It is anthropomorphic to assume that increasing entropy is 'forwards'. It may just as well be backwards. If the cosmos is a closed system then entropy and organisation just swap back and forth, the question of which way is forwards may not be answerable. (Actually I'm not sure this invalidates your point - but it seems a relevant issue).
     
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  7. Dana D It's all about balance Registered Senior Member

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    No invalidation. The direction matters not. Forwards, backwards, up, down - it's all relative. - Albert.
     
  8. genocider Registered Senior Member

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    Well I use to call existent beings only to thing which we can observe and the ones which we can't observe but are in interaction with the first ones. So time, vectors, space, etc. are concepts that belongs to other category (by my point of view): the beings wich we need to explain the beings we can observe. Then, I think there is no reason to assert that time, space, dimension or ideas like this are exisiting ones.
     
  9. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    OK. But have we explained why human being have a definite sense of living in the same direction as entropy? I'm not sure.
     
  10. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    Fair point, although 'observe' is hard to define precisely. But it's a tricky issue. Wouldn't it follow that cricket and other people's consciousness don't exist?
     
  11. genocider Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, we have the perill of fall into private language (Russell) if only we deal with our sense data. So science prefeers to interest in intersubjective phenomena like the movement of the planets, the transmition of energy, the freezing point of the materials... Probably we must copncentrate in observable facts that are valid to everybody.
     
  12. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    Science must, I agree, but 'we' can do what we want. I cannot accept the notion that consciousness is not really there just because 'science' can't see it.
     
  13. genocider Registered Senior Member

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    Completely agree.
     

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