is this right?

Discussion in 'The Cesspool' started by NMSquirrel, Aug 11, 2011.

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  1. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    i am not gonna say who wrote this. they can volunteer that info if they want..
    it was in PM..

    to me this attitude just does not seem right..

    I don't expect an attitude reversal, and i understand there are ppl out there who just don't get along with me..
    this person has not been insulting or rude in any way, so i am not looking to get this person in trouble, i can respect someone who doesn't resort to insults..maybe i am just making it out more than it is..

    but the underlying issue is, is it ethical/moral/acceptable to not like someone just cause they don't agree with you?
     
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  3. Mutawintji Registered Member

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    You can like people or dislike them ... its personal .... there are no formal distinctions that apply.


    Abou ben Adam

    Abou ben Adam (may his tribe increase!)
    awoke one night from a deep dream of peace,
    And saw, within the moonlight of his room,
    Making it rich, and like a lily in bloom,
    an angel, writing in a book of of gold.

    Exceeding peace had made Ben Adam bold,
    And to the Presence in the room he said:
    "What writest thou?" The vision raised its head,
    And, with a look made of all sweet accord,
    Answered, "The names of those who love the Lord."

    "And is mine one?"said Abou, "Nay, not so,"
    Replied the angel. Abou spoke more low,
    But cheerily still, and said, "I pray thee, then,
    Write me as one who loves his fellow men."
    The angel wrote, and vanished. The next night
    It came again, with a great awakening light,
    And showed the names whom love of God had blest,
    And lo! Ben adam's name led all the rest.


    Mutawintji
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    That's a personal feeling that we all must decide when meeting new people in our lives. I do not believe it has anything to do with those things you stated but only from a bond that forms, or doesn't, with each indivudal.
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I think it's natural. I would find it unacceptable to live with someone who is religious or politically conservative for instance. Believe me, it can be tempting, but I'm just not that tolerant.
     
  8. Mutawintji Registered Member

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    Isn't this a matter of degree ?

    Like saying I can't suffer anyone east of me or west of me ? It all depends on where you choose to stand that defines religion and conservatism.

    Mutawintji
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I can stand those people are friends, but I do draw the line somewhere. For me, most religion is the same, as long as you entertain something supernatural, my opinion of you is diminished.
     
  10. Mutawintji Registered Member

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    And Conservatism ?


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  11. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    so i guess you like it when i argue 'why does God have to be supernatural?'?
     
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  13. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    Everyone has their boundaries and limits, some set them narrowly, some set them widely.

    Right? wrong?

    Meh. Let it go.
     
  14. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    I can and do like people who disagree with me, even on "important" issues.

    Now, if I see that disagreement as a symptom of a deeper character flaw in that individual, I may choose to disassociate myself from them.

    But on a written forum such as this, you're not really getting to know the individual. In fact it can take some effort to remember that those words are coming from another human being.
     
  15. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    I like people that disagree. I might learn something from them . A new angel . Look how the political groups learn from each other . They steal agendas all the time . Hey what ever gets you elected . Is that not how they it is done ? Appeal to the center . Get the swing vote .

    I like Spidey . I don't think I could live with him though . Maybe if we were in the same prison cell then I could . Pretty much would have too
     
  16. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    I look at forum discussions, like I do sports. When you play sports, you fight hard and do your best to win. But after the game is over, you buy each other a beer. Even if the other team is trying to push your face in the dirt, you can still respect the game intensity they bring. It makes you play harder. If you think this is war and not sports, then it becomes a civil war and brothers will part.
     
  17. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    LOL..perfect facepalm for me as i like star trek..
     
  18. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    I am not a human being!
    Slander!

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    Wow, I really needed a sandblasting in that picture, the carbon-scoring was getting out of hand...
     
  19. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    um..excuse me..may i see your green card? i don't think you are legal..
     
  20. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Everyone - the exchange in the OP was between NMSquirrel and myself, he posted the PM without asking me anything. I'll tell you more, so that you hear both sides of the story.

    Out of the blue, he wrote to me, after a discussion at the forum got heated. He was asking me whether something was wrong in my private life or some such, so that conversations with me at the forums had gotten uncomfortable for him.
    I told him, in no uncertain manner, that I do not wish to have anything to do with him. He was then apparently offended, expressing himself at the forums:

    After a few days, I collected some of his statements from the forums, about our doctrinal disagreements, and explained why I don't accept such differences in a friendship.
    He disagreed, continued saying that the fact that we disgree doesn't mean anything.
    Which is where the quoted PM's in the OP are from.
    I explained that we can perfectly well coexist as forum acquaintances, without being buddies in private.



    Yes. Moreover, you are caricaturing my stance.

    I do not think we can be friends.

    Can't you handle a rejection?

    To boot, a rejection from someone online, someone whom you disgaree with on many matters, and whom you believe to be wrong on many issues?



    What is not right is you claiming you want to be friends with someone
    while at the same time you do not appreciate what this person thinks about a variety of issues, including friendship.


    Ask yourself: Why do you want so badly to be friends or buddies with someone who doesn't want to be buddies with you?

    Do you have an approval addiction?

    Does your Christian faith depend on others coming to see things your way?

    Do my posts on religious topics at the forums challenge your Christian faith uncomfortably?
     
  21. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    This is human emotions that we're talking about here, and not necessarily ethics. We find ourselves liking and disliking people for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes those reasons aren't entirely rational.

    When somebody doesn't like somebody else, I think that's sad, but it probably isn't evil.
     
  22. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    i wrote you because up until a certain point you have been very reasonable.
    then all of a sudden you became very unreasonable.(and it seemed i was now a target for you.)

    don't remember you bringing doctrine into the conversation. also i don't argue doctrine. (just cause my beliefs line up with some doctrines,does not mean i believe in those doctrines..)

    that's fine, but don't be such that you have to disagree with everything i say.

    apparently you don't get that i avoid right/wrong arguments,
    just cause i disagree with you does not mean i am saying you are wrong.
    you have to live with your own decisions, why do you need validation from me?
    also if it weren't for disagreements,this venue would be dead.

    see, its not me who is making it about right/wrong..it is you.

    i never claimed i wanted to be friends with you.i only claimed we do not have to be enemies just cause we disagree.

    why do you have to make it about either/or ?

    there you go again making it more than it is..why is it so important that i agree with you?

    and you claim "you do not appreciate what this person thinks about a variety of issues" so what is so wrong with my opinions that you deem them unworthy of thought? does it make you feel worthless to think of them? how is that my fault?

    no, actually i have appreciated your intelligent scrutiny, (which is why i PM'd you, instead of just ignoring you)
    it was when you lost that and started with attitude against me that i PM'd you..

    do you agree or disagree with the statement;
    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle.
    not all my posts are what i believe (although most are), some are just thoughts that i share.
     
  23. skaught The field its covered in blood Valued Senior Member

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    Near hit, but a miss. Any conversation that would call for the Picard face palm, but is also about religion now calls for the "Faith palm"

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