sorry if i misspell anything, but i just came from this youtube video with this creationist dude called Andrew Gulick, who just failed at even basic science. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LANGhIyqz68&feature=feedu just a few of the shit he pulled out: 1)Noa had to bring only 16,000 animals on the ark, not species, animals. he think there are just 8000 specie in the world. 2)Carbon dating is nonsense because...i didn't get this part. sorry. 3)we still have Cambrian era species. not their taxonomic Phylum, but SPECIES. yeah. no one told him the difference between a Cambrian mollusk and a modern one. 4)no transitional fossils...yeah. 5) light got from millions and billions of light years faster because quote he didn't give any explanation whatsoever. 6)spiral galaxies are impossible cuz they spin to fast. therefore they all have to be less that 1 million years old. 7)planets should be made of hydrogen like the sun...gas giants anyone? Jupiter having two and a half times the mass of all the other planets in our Solar System combined, and is made of mostly FUCKING HYDROGEN! 8) something about how because some planets and moons rotate backwards supporting a young universe. 9)Ice in the Solar System being (seriously, that's what he said) showing a young universe. 10) Genesis.Com is better source of information than actual science sites. i am so dam iritated right now, i can't even think straight!
We need to drop him off at the top of Greathouse peak and show him the abundance of shale with fossils out the yin yang . Butt loads of sea shells at the top of the mountain , how far inland and at what elevation . He can figure out him self how long it took for the bottom of a sea go get where it is today . If it was 6000 years that means we can just hop on over to the moon long jump style as we walk up the mountain in what may bout another 100 years ?
Well if the bottom of a sea is at the top of a mountain and it took 6000 years , never mind it was an exaggeration. The point is there is no way that much movement in the earth could ever possibly happen in such a little bit of time . We would be able to feel the ground moving under our feet I would think . I will go with millions and millions maybe billions of years . I would guess the fossils are from before dinosaurs. Maybe even before the previous mass extinction before the dinosaurs . I don't know ? I use to have some of the fossils . If I still had them I could probably look em up on the internet and tell exactly
Around two million species have been catalogued so far. Biologists are quite certain that this is only a fraction of the total. We've found most of the larger animals and plants (duh!), but not the smaller ones and not species in the other four Kingdoms: fungi, algae, bacteria and archaea. Can't you see Noah carefully scooping up samples of ringworm fungus and tuberculosis bacteria and stowing them away to make sure they would not become extinct? And didn't he do a great job with all the viruses? They're not really "alive" so he must have made a field-decision to interpret God's orders to include them. A really thorough dude, that Noah. Well I ain't gonna watch that stupid video to hear his crackpot argument! I'm sure someone did, and he's pretending not to know that. What I learned 25 years ago at a "debate" between a creation "scientist" and a real scientist is that these assholes know very well that they're telling lies. They're better speakers than real scientists (who, as a demographic, are utterly crappy communicators) so they engage the audience with their bullshit. They carefully sift through the fossil record and only display the ones that appear to prove their argument. And they trot out papers from third-rate universities that support their points. They don't want to enlighten the generally poorly-educated fundamentalist Christians who make up their constituency. They just want to indoctrinate them in evolution denialism so they will disrespect science. If they can continue to denigrate science in America, it will be easier to fulfil their agenda of bringing the Religious Redneck Retard Revival to all fifty states. Stupid people have always been easier to sell religion too because they don't keep interrupting with, "Wait a minute, that doesn't quite make sense." As I've posted elsewhere, it's a miracle (pardon the word!) that there are any fossils at all. The odds of one surviving all the forces of nature bent on its destruction are incredibly small. They have to be in just the right place with just the right weather and not be disturbed for zillions of years, while the organic molecules are ever-so-slowly leached out and replaced with minerals. This always amazes me. If their imaginary god is as clever and powerful as they say he is, he could easily have created the light waves in exactly the form they would be in transit. This is one of the very few creationist arguments that holds up under scrutiny, and most of them don't use it. This just illustrates my point that these guys don't actually believe what they're saying, so they don't have the intellectual arguments to back it up. Out of my field of expertise. The sun is not 100% hydrogen, if I'm not mistaken. Sorry, I'm not gonna go back and review the video fer ya! Huh? Well of course he'd say that. Be careful then. People who can't think straight fall for religious arguments! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Noah had MAGIC on his side. it is. way over half of every single species that ever existed, exist or will exist will ever fossilize. that means that if you come back to Earth is 100 million years, you won't find (just examples) fossils of ducks or lions. hes basically taking an issue from real astrophysics, and distorted it: gravity from the visible mass of galaxies if to low and to far apart to hold a galaxy together like that. spirals arms are in this issue due to the gravity required to keep them together. of course, there's dark matter, which he wouldn't even know of, or maybe he just ignores it. some 99% hydrogen i think. it has lithium, iron and other stuff. the planets account for less than 99% of the mass of the solar system. basically said that since the solar system is full of crystal clear ice (where he got that preposterous idea is beyond my mere mortal intellect) when it should be dirty ice (WHICH IT ACTUALLY FUCKING IS. UHH...) the solar system is not 4.5 billion years old. THAT'S HIS ARGUMENT! don't worry, i had these kind of crisis before, i know how to counter its effect: just go to an actual science site, AND READ! doesn't matter what article, just read.
I like you. "Religious Redneck Retard Revival "should be a bandname...possibly a joke band. Young Earth Creationists just about make blood squirt out of my ears.
yeah, tell me about it. here's what my discussion with one from this vid: me: him me him me him (yeah...) me then this other creationist jumps in from this point on i definitely knew i was in the wrong place for a debate, as they just shit out of their mouth and ignore my every comment. so i just told him what a waste of fucking computing power. these guys don't even know how rare fossils are, and they demand that i listen to them and not scientists who made it their life works.
The number of species on the earth is a function of how we choose to catalog species. If the modern book of species was lost, and all its memories not trusted, and we had to begin from scratch, we might begin by first putting life into simple catagories, land, air and water. As these three groups become too large with thousands and thousands of data, other cataloging patterns will appear and be agreed on, causing us to make sub-catagories. Some of these eventually become their own catagory (when large enough). The final delineation is subjective and does not reflect humans defining universal categories. Most of the outline was done over a hundred years ago before science really took off. The term cat covers a wide range of species. We could have defined the general term cat as the species ,and all the rest, lions, cougars and domestic as cat sub-species since there is so much in common. Or we could have also broken the species cat up into color, since there is a genetic difference. If we found the current variety of modern dogs in the wild, the german shepherd and French poodle would be classified as separate species. But since these dogs are synthetic or manmade, we don't do it that way. But natural with that much variation will get its own species classification. Go figure. If we wanted to, we could reduce the number of species or increase it more, simply by changing the label criteria. It is erroneous to think the current catalog is the divine way that the god of chaos gave to the atheist elders when light appears in the religious darkness. That is why these sciences are still empirical (fuzzy). Fuzzy is valid over a wider range than rational. Say science had to collect one of each species for a space ark, since the earth was about to explode. Since new species are being found each day, if you had a deadline, the best you could do is gather what is already in the book of species and call this one of each. You technially do not have to gather what has not been classified as yet since until classified, redundancy will waste space. Maybe 8,000 speices was the entire book at 6000 years ago, with the categories different than today. Being empirical and subjective the fuzzy hits the target for its day using agreed upon species. An interesting exercise would be say you could only use 6000 classifications of species in a given area, how would you catalog them, knowing you have more superificial variety than classifications?
and more creationist nonsense. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKO-vTwYCo8 this is the Hydroplate Theory...oh, god. just...just watch, the slap yourself, then come back and tell me if you just got really, really red of all that bullshit.
I find titles like ''science for idiots'' relatively funnily. After all, science is no easy subject, and by a far cry from the general grasp of any idiot. Of course, we are not idiots, but science sure makes us feel that way sometimes.
OMG that was a good laughf! actually both funny and scarey.... the more i think the more scary that they sell this bullshit and ppl buy it...
