Free thoroughbreds! Save from slaughter!

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Lori_7, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    lol you mean entire horses plastic-wrapped?
    I'm thinking I won't as I'm not much of a meat-eater.

    Species that migrate elsewhere can become invasive species there. Actually, species can become an invasive species in their own habitat (counterintuitive as that sounds).
     
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  3. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Horses were here before humans, then went extinct for reasons as yet unknown. They were reintroduced by the Spanish in the 16th century.

    Humans owe much of their success to the efforts of the domesticated horse. It is a fairly recent thing that we have become adverse to eating them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat
     
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  5. John99 Banned Banned

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    oh God....John faints.
     
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  7. Idle Mind What the hell, man? Valued Senior Member

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    I've tried it -- basashi in Japan, actually (and at a Japanese restaurant in Canada). I felt guilty, but it was tasty. It's normal in some cultures -- again, it's about reducing waste.
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But humans do eat them already. Cows taste better to some. everyone has their own tastes and some prefer chickens or pigs as well.
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Today, the only true wild horse is the Przewalski's Horse, native to Mongolia. However, the horse family Equidae and the genus Equus evolved in North America. Studies using ancient DNA as well as DNA of recent individuals shows there once were two closely related horse species in North America, the "wild horse" (Equus ferus) and the "Stilt-legged Horse;" which is taxonomically assigned to various names. Thus, primitive horses lived in North America in prehistoric times. However, the entire genus Equus in North America died out at the end of the last ice age around 10-12,000 years ago, possibly due to a changing climate or the impact of newly arrived human hunters. Thus at the beginning of the Columbian Exchange, there were no equids in the Americas at all. Horses first returned with the Conquistadors, beginning with Columbus, who imported horses from Spain to the West Indies on his second voyage in 1493. Domesticated horses came to the mainland with the arrival of Cortés in 1519.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustang_(horse)
     
  10. birch Valued Senior Member

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    if this was about eating dogs, there would be such an uproar.

    horses are amazing creatures and i think even more intelligent. they are very sensitive too. as schezerade has noted on another thread, i have experienced a wondrous connection with some horses. the sense of understanding they have is much more fine-tuned and developed than any other pet i've had. it's like they can really understand and read you deeply. i think they have beautiful souls, so to speak. so noble and sweet.
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Rodeo associations claim very few animals are injured and killed in rodeos. That is a lie. In fact, rodeo associations do not disclose animal injuries and deaths. Furthermore, those who do commit humane violations are granted anonymity.


    Rodeos Abuse, Maim and Kill Animals


    Speaking of corruption, rodeo also brings out the lowest of the low when it comes to corporations. Rodeo in fact survives on the sponsorship money of corporations who want to make a profit at any cost to animals. Companies like Wrangler, AT&T/Cingular Wireless, Coca-Cola, Daimler Chrysler, Jack Daniels, and others are willing to fund rodeo animal abusers, ignore the enormous amount of evidence of the abuse, and all the while claim to adhere to the "highest corporate ethics". In return, rodeo announcers do a job of brown-nosing and sucking up to the careless corporations that is frankly embarrassing. Caring people will want to go to CorporateThugs.com to identify and avoid these careless corporate profiteers.


    It isn't just corporations who give welfare handouts to rodeo animal abusers. When it comes to government money, the Rodeo Mafia become Welfare Cowboys. Go to RodeoWelfare.com to see the outrageous use of tax dollars.

    When it comes to rodeo, there are two types of media. Reporters who are lazy, careless, or whose integrity is for sale, write glowing stories of the rodeo. The more you ignore the facts, the better the rewards you may receive from the rodeo industry. Go to MediaVillains.com to learn about these Yellow Journalists.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...5MdfvO37GSnCCzTBA&sig2=BT17vueoHDBuiO4K-a43nA
     
  12. jmpet Valued Senior Member

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    I asked my only friend who has ample land and she said she heard about it on the Internet and she does not have the proper facilities for them. Sad.
     
  13. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    sorry Lori. it was at www.snopes.com

    http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/horses.asp
     
  14. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    I sadly predict that with the weather we are experiencing across the western part of Canada and the US that there will be a shortage of hay this winter. Shortage always drives prices upward, causing hardship and potentially sending more horses to the auction barns and slaughter houses.

    I really hope that I am wrong, but it is the first year in many that I am concerned about securing a winter supply of hay for my three beasties. The hay account has plenty of padding against just such a contingency but money can't buy what is not available. I have experience in alternate rations for horses and am starting to lay in grain and alfalfa cubes, and grazing my horses in the yard to stretch the remnants of last seasons crop. We have what looks like a three day window of moderately warm weather and a good drying wind, with only spotty showers predicted, so I'm hoping the farmers are able to get it cut, baled, and sprayed with a product that arrests mold growth since they will be baling at marginal humidity, as in barely dry enough for storage.

    The weather has been playing havoc across this nation and human foodstuffs will be going up in price as well is my best guess. A lot of product is traded on futures so the price won't hit the shelves for a short while yet. Stock up on pantry items is my best suggestion. Lots of goods such as canned beans and tuna, dried beans etc. have long best before dates.
     
  15. jmpet Valued Senior Member

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    How about those greyhounds???
     
  16. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    Honestly, there are often horses going for sale at slaughter price, and they are usually unsound...lots of them.

    Sad, but it happens every horse auction, so you don't have to look very far if you want a charity case.

    Horses aren't cheap.
     
  17. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    horses are not from the Americas Cosmic . They are invasive to an extent .
    The Mustangs have known to starve on the open range . But loads in Nevada . I don't know for sure if there still there or not , but they are not native by no means . More like a brook trout on the west coast . Fish and Game would just as soon get rid of em all
     
  18. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    I heard a third of the crops were lost in the mid-west do to flooding . That I would think will have an impact
     
  19. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Just remember the Spaniards brought Mustang's over originally, they invaded the land with the settlers of that period. (Obviously this counter point is completely off topic with saving horses from the meat chop.)

    To be honest if you don't have horses and decided "I'll save one", it takes a lot of work, effort and space to look after one or more. There are of course other ways to save them without taking them on yourself, there might well be various charity locations that can put them up but just need contributions to continue running.

    Otherwise some lion in a zoo is not going to have old stringy meat in a couple of weeks time.
     
  20. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    I've seen the fields nearby near Augusta, GA being constantly mowed for hay making (At least 3 times in a season).

    It seems the people round here grow more hay than anything else, well other than pine tree's and the gum tree's that sneak up the insides of the rows. So I would suggest if you think there is a shortage, look into shipping from a round these parts.
     
  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Today, the only true wild horse is the Przewalski's Horse, native to Mongolia. However, the horse family Equidae and the genus Equus evolved in North America. Studies using ancient DNA as well as DNA of recent individuals shows there once were two closely related horse species in North America, the "wild horse" (Equus ferus) and the "Stilt-legged Horse;" which is taxonomically assigned to various names. Thus, primitive horses lived in North America in prehistoric times. However, the entire genus Equus in North America died out at the end of the last ice age around 10-12,000 years ago, possibly due to a changing climate or the impact of newly arrived human hunters. Thus at the beginning of the Columbian Exchange, there were no equids in the Americas at all. Horses first returned with the Conquistadors, beginning with Columbus, who imported horses from Spain to the West Indies on his second voyage in 1493. Domesticated horses came to the mainland with the arrival of Cortés in 1519.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustang_(horse)
     
  22. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Good thought but two problems.

    1) The Yukon borders Alaska. Distance is considerable.

    2) Agricultural certification is required for hay that crosses the border, another expense and time consideration.

    We will manage, I don't doubt, with some creative feeding and there may well be green feed later in the year and I just heard from Ft.St. John that they will have some have hay for sale, but can't start trucking until the grain crops are off the field.

    It's starting to come together.
     
  23. Me-Ki-Gal Banned Banned

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    Thanks , Yeah I saw your post up above . It was good . Yeah likey likey . I wonder what caused there extinction ? Global Warming probably , or was it Humans eating them all gone when they got here . I doubt that . Deer taste way better . There were big ass dear in those days . They are gone too, so are saber tooths Humans probably ate them all gone too
    Speculation is fun !!
     

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