My son at 14 wants to be a marine and kill Osamas in the desert

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by jmpet, Jul 31, 2011.

  1. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    No I know western teenagers and western teenagers are the most coddled and immature of all. Most are protected from any kind of harshness that life has to offer most of all destruction, devastation and death. They worry about computer games and tv and are free from the heaviness that comes with war. Like I said before Jmpet's kid is not unusual he's protected from the reality of war and so can only imagine its glory. The way you explain things having ones dog die or grandparent pass from disease or old age is the same as watching someone's lower body blown off right in front of you or knowing in the back of your mind that your next step can mean your demise. Not even death but physical devastation which for most is worse.

    You were rude too. And by the way I told you to fuck off before I told you I thought you were being an asshole. But you know, its life, shit happens.
     
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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    are you related to Asguard? Your posts are a lot alike.
     
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  5. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Are you related to Snooki? Because you display the same amount of sophistication and intelligence. Again I have taken the time to address your points, the fact that you keep coming back with stupid statements and not a proper counter-argument is a testament to the quicksand your point of view rests upon.
     
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  7. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    and you reaspond to posts with pretend overly dramatic statements that are so way off topic that you should be embarassed.

    And who is Snooki?
     
  8. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Nope I came up with questions and reasons for my opinions. When I engaged you in dialectic argument you refrained from answering the questions all together or brought up incidents of pets and family members dying which has nothing to do with whether a teenager can really understand death, life and violence due to WAR.

    Look in the mirror and Snooki will manifest.
     
  9. deicider got omnicidead Registered Senior Member

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    oh a lil conservative hatchling.

    Too much testosterone into his young body perhaps.
    For a 14yo angst militant teen its completely normal.
    When i was young as that i wanted to kill angry people.
    I was very upset about it.
     
  10. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Did you get over it? How long was the phase? If it was a phase.
     
  11. birch Valued Senior Member

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    let me remind you the friggen point. you said that all soldiers value life or after the experience of going to war or having seen battle. i told you that's bullshit, because not all of them value life even after the experience because not all people are friggen humanitarians. what are you? two years old? because that's about how realistic you are.

    your logic is about as smart as saying some of the blood's gangmembers got killed by the crypts and so they learned to value life because of the experience. some just want to kill some more and don't 'value' life just because they mourn the loss of their own or the fact ganglife is risky and dangerous.

    anything else?
     
  12. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah. What is it that makes you believe that they do not? What makes you think that they don't understand what it is? You say its 'bullshit' as if its bullshit for all, so I would like to know how you came to that conclusion. I'm as realistic as my life experience which is obviously closer to the subject at hand than yours. I'm not some stupid bunny who's spent her years in the suburbs or cities of the US, I've been around the military for many years and in many different parts of the world, I know the men and women, I know the lives, I know the reality, so please explain to me from where you glean your expertise. Back up your bloody point of view with an argument that doesn't come out of some imaginary knowledge of what deployment and engagement and the after math has on a soldier. I know NGO worker's who are better informed than you are. But why shouldn't they be? They're in the bloody field!

    You know, my experience came way before I was a military wife. You should think twice before challenging women like me, we're as fucking ferocious as the men we marry.
     
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  13. birch Valued Senior Member

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    first of all, where did i say it applies to all? that's been your stint. you got it reversed.

    i don't care if you've been around military all your life because what you believe is just not true. not all military personnel who have seen war or experienced it value life. you've got to be an idiot to believe that.

    let me make it simpler for you. people's values or character doesn't magically change for most because of war or having seen or experienced death. sometimes that does happen but for most they just mourn the loss of their comrades. this wider epiphany that war is a horrible alternative and that all life is precious etc is something else and it does not apply to everyone, military personnel or not.

    get real.
     
  14. deicider got omnicidead Registered Senior Member

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    Well, being a human is a phase too.
    Now i hate black people.
     
  15. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    You should get over to the 'why white women date black men'. Your folk over there need defending.
     
  16. deicider got omnicidead Registered Senior Member

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    I prefer Peruvian women, they're so pretty.
     
  17. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    I asked you to show me what informs your opinion, on what it is based. You have yet to do that which makes your perspective WEAK.

    No one said that one's character changes because one is in the military though much of the time it does. No one claims that it can make a bad or irresponsible person good or better, that's not the point. What I am saying is that the experience of war whether directly or on the periphery such as experienced by aid workers and those who deal with the effect directly such as those who live through it, MAKES ONE MUCH MORE CLOSELY LINKED TO LIFE, DEATH AND VIOLENCE DUE TO WAR! Now what the fuck can't you understand about that?
     
  18. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Still you should go and defend comrades in the other thread.
     
  19. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    So many good reasons to hate people on an individual basis...*shakes head*
     
  20. deicider got omnicidead Registered Senior Member

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    No, i hate racists.
     
  21. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    I guess we don't understand how you can think that...yet think "wasting osama's" is a good attitude to have going into the military.
     
  22. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    bigot!
     
  23. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    LOL he's a racistist
     

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