what would happen?

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  1. DirtyDave Registered Member

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    what would happen if an unstoppable force came into contact with and immovable object? i got asked this question n i duno the answer :m: :m:
     
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  3. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    We already have a thread which asks similiar question in Physics forum i think...WET1 could help you out.



    bye!
     
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  5. §lîñk€¥™ Uneducated smart alec Registered Senior Member

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    They are contradictory ideas.

    If there is an unstoppable force then there are no immovable objects.

    If there are immovable objects there are no unstoppable forces.

    kind regards
    Paul aka §lîñk€¥™
     
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  7. blobrana Registered Senior Member

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    The word on the street is that,

    `they can`t co-exist in the same universe`

    Quite catchy, huh?
     
  8. RDT2 Registered Senior Member

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    It would pass right on through

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    Ron.
     
  9. §lîñk€¥™ Uneducated smart alec Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Re: what would happen?

    You mean the immovable object would move aside?

    Can you say "contradiction". I knew you could.
     
  10. RDT2 Registered Senior Member

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    Of course not. The phrase was coined (not by me - I wish I had) to illustrate the absurdity of the question.

    Cheers,

    Ron.
     
  11. §lîñk€¥™ Uneducated smart alec Registered Senior Member

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    The absurdity of the question had already been exposed. Call me old fashioned.....

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  12. chroot Crackpot killer Registered Senior Member

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    This universe would be instantly destroyed and replaced by an even more complex universe.

    (c) Douglas Adams.

    - Warren
     
  13. RDT2 Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Re: what would happen?

    Sounds infinitely improbable to me.

    Cheers,

    Beeplebrox (after too many pan-galactic gargle blasters)
     
  14. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Dam total existence failure!

    What was the space ship that they made that was suppose to be infallible and as a result suffered a "total existence failure" before it could get out its first S.O.S? I seem to miss place my Ultimate Hitch Hitcher’s Guide to the Galaxy book.
     
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  15. ProCop Valued Senior Member

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    Presuming the "contact" not to be absolute then nothing would happen. Read the Zeno Paradox thread: the unstoppable force would move infinitely (one half of the remaining (infinitellysmall) distance on and on) and never come to the necessity to move the inmovable object. They would coexist: one moving and one not moving).
     
  16. mouse can't sing, can't dance Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Re: what would happen?

    To finish the quote:

    There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

    (c) Douglas Adams, again.
     
  17. RDT2 Registered Senior Member

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    "Starship Titanic", I think.

    Ah well, back to work. Spontaneous Massive Existence Failure anytime now.

    All the best,

    Ron.
     
  18. Fluidity Registered Senior Member

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    Albeit, Just as irrelevant

    The results of my experiment are in:
    1) The shape of the immovable object is unknown. We found this essential in determining some basis for identity.
    2) The domain and dimensions of the unstoppable force is unknown. We found this essential in determining the behavior of the force in relation to the above.

    Take two identical spheres, name one unstoppable, name one immovable. The unstoppable force collides with the immovable object. In the ensuing struggle to move the immovable, the unstoppable moves everything in the Universe in relationship to the immovable in an exact ratio to itself. If everything else is moving in relationship to the immovable object and the unstoppable force, how do we determine which force is the unstoppable force, and which is the immovable object?

    In this situation, the unstoppable force is orbiting the immovable object. But, to the outside observer, the spheres are behaving in an identical way, they have become the same thing. The Universe appears to be at rest, while these two spheres orbit one another in equal relation.

    Which one wins? undetermined
     
  19. hlreed Registered Senior Member

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    You get perfect reflection.
     
  20. qfrontier Captain Of Starship Registered Senior Member

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    I think that the force would be deflected because you see its unstoppable so it would change directions and still keep going on so both the unstoppable force and immovable object can co-exist I think in the same universe.
     
  21. avawan Registered Member

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    OH?

    oKAY. wHAT DO YOU MEAN BY UNSTOPPABLE and IMMOVABLE?
    if
    unstoppable = F-> INFINITY
    immovable = m-> infinity
    then from newton's laws ( wellz, assume that it applies here...)
    F=ma,
    acceleration can be anything but not infinity cuz F and m are both first-order inifnities.

    ....just being crazy here........newayz...
     
  22. lethe Registered Senior Member

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    isn t this a philosophy question? due to descartes or something? isn t there a philosophy forum on this board?
     
  23. RDT2 Registered Senior Member

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    Re: OH?

    Try not to be. Are you being technical about first order infinities (sp), in which case I might argue.

    I go with lethe - this is a (medieval) philosophical question, on the same level of 'how many angels...'

    ron.
     

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