P90x

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by sifreak21, May 5, 2010.

  1. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    Does P90x take into account different body types? Because how can they recommend the same diet to everyone?
     
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  3. pragmathen 0001 1111 Registered Senior Member

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    It does take into account different body types: there are 3 of these as well. Based on my height/weight ratio, I'm in the 3rd tier (most calories) while my wife is in the lowest (1st) tier. I'm supposed to be eating around 3,000 cals/day, which is just not possible for me yet, especially since half of that is supposed to come from protein (for this first 30 days).

    Each month / phase, the nutrition adjusts to fewer proteins and more carbs basically. The first month is intended to burn as much fat as possible. Since each subsequent month is the workouts at a greater intensity (I think), it adjusts to allow for more carb intake, which is what you'll need to perform the workouts everyday.

    You're also eating about 5-6 times a day. Remember that Onion article Breakfast now ..., well it's not far from the truth!
     
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  5. smokinglizard Registered Senior Member

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    Don't. P90X is nothing but marketing gimmickry. They slapped together a bunch of ridiculously and unnecessarily intense calisthenics so that people get extremely sore, super sweaty, and nauseous. Those people then mistakenly conclude that the routine is "great" because they hurt so much.

    Don't waste your money. Get a good book from the library and learn the principles of specificity, progressive intensity, periodization, proper technique, etc.
     
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  7. pragmathen 0001 1111 Registered Senior Member

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    Or do check it out, if you're curious. Isn't everything marketing gimmickry nowadays? Last time I checked out principles of specificity, progressive intensity, periodization, proper technique, etc I have to admit I was fooled by all the pretty colors and smiling faces on the posters / books.

    When in doubt, do some research about things you're interested in finding more information about. Changing bad habits frequently introduces pain of some sort.
     
  8. smokinglizard Registered Senior Member

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    Hmmm...gotta say that's some odd advice. Here's one guy saying, "It's a ripoff. Save your money," and you say, "That's OK, spend your money anyway."

    P90X costs $120...for glossily repackaged calisthenics. It's a marketing scam. Your advice is like telling someone, "Yeah, go check out pyramid schemes. Get involved in one if you want more information..."

    Huh?
     
  9. pragmathen 0001 1111 Registered Senior Member

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    Your reading comprehension is failing. Maybe work on getting your mind in shape first? Is it possible to do research without actually buying or joining something? If you don't think so, hey I've got this great money-making ponzi scheme you should contribute to.
     
  10. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    The whole "muscle confusion" thing that the program is supposed to be based around is a bunch of non-scientific marketing BS. Of course there's no shortage of ignorant/dishonest/duped people who will claim that it's based on the latest scientific research blahblahblah, but actual scientific studies supporting the concept are non-existent.

    Will it work? Yeah, if you do pretty much any intense exercises 5+ hours/week for 12 weeks, you will end up in significantly better shape.
     
  11. superstring01 Moderator

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    While there is no such thing as "muscle confusion" there is a need to rotate exercises. That, coupled with P90X's intense workout is all Tony Horton should have talked about. . . but that nonsense (and his annoying personality) just made the whole program stink.

    ~String
     
  12. Idle Mind What the hell, man? Valued Senior Member

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    The best thing about programs like this is that they do keep the intensity up, and they give people a solid goal (as in, completion of the program).

    I'll do my own thing, thanks.
     
  13. Marsel Registered Senior Member

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    It works very well and burns a hell lotta calories
     
  14. pragmathen 0001 1111 Registered Senior Member

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    Jesus, really, Nasor? Quite the vendetta against this specific program I guess? Does it just keep you awake at night, thinking of all the gullible sheep that are participating in this travesty?

    I'm still doing this (week 1 of phase 2) and it's still kicking my ass all over my living room. Will it work? Who knows, but it's giving me a definite goal to work towards. It's a form of entertainment, who gives two craps how someone finds something enjoyable? Less than the price of a Wii.

    Everything's a scam. Everything gives you cancer. Nothing's what it seems in life. We get it. You're a nihilist. It's what makes you happy. Awesome.
     
  15. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Why do you assume that I have a vendetta? I was simply pointing out that the P90x program relies on pseudoscience marketing bullshit.
    Nope
    If you're doing it because you enjoy it, great, I'm glad you found a new source of entertainment. I suspect, however, that most people do not find the P90x experience particularly pleasant. Most people probably look at it as an unpleasant means to a desired end.
    What the hell are you babbling about? You suppose that since I'm educated enough about exercise to know that "muscle confusion" is bullshit, it means I must be a nihilist?

    Anyway, I hope you continue to enjoy your 7 hours of cardio.
     
  16. pragmathen 0001 1111 Registered Senior Member

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    That last part of my rant was a bit off-base, I grant you that. I also just wanted to call you a nihilist because part of me was thinking of the Big Lebowski at the time.

    On my way into work today, another driver became so angry with me that he turned in his seat and told me where to go. It was crazy, so perhaps I need to take it a bit easier in life.

    With p90x, here's some full disclosure: I haven't purchased this dvd collection. My brother-in-law is living with us, he bought it and we're all using it. So, really there's been no out-of-pocket for me, aside from the 7 hours of cardio you mention. But it's a great regimen and I think I'm seeing some results, though it's very hard-fought.

    To each his own. As Carlin once said, "May the forces of evil become lost on the way to your house."
     
  17. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    The term "muscle confusion" just comes from the idea that, if you do the same thing over and over for a long period of time, your body will eventually adapt to it. By rotating through varying exercises, actuating differing muscles (or even the same muscles in differing ways), you will keep the body pushing itself a little harder without having to increase the duration/intensity of the workout.

    This is good for when you are trying to meet a specific goal (read, target heartrate).

    Another advantage is that it allows worn muscles to recover while you focus on other groups (after all, you build muscle by tearing it down and having the body rebuild it better - no chance to recover = no muscle building)
     

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