Should women be allowed to nurse their baby on airplanes?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Syzygys, Nov 19, 2006.

  1. Looney Whaaaaat? Registered Senior Member

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    Formula is not much more than colored water which has been enriched with some vitamins. Not an option for a mother who wants to give her child proper nourishment and immunity.

    You can't just give a breast fed baby a bottle many won't take a bottle and will continue to cry until they are offered the breast. Also when breast feeding is delayed the nursing mother becomes painfully engorged with milk. The only way to relieve the engorgement is to feed the baby or express the milk which requires equipment that would expose more of the breast than breastfeeding. Not everyone can express milk with breast pumps. I could pump for an hour and get maybe an ounce.
     
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  3. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    Title: Even nature tells us to breastfeed in public, or wherever mothers and babies may be found.

    See there people? Not only is natural increase quite natural for humanity, but if nature could have its say, nature would say to breastfeed in public as well. Babies get hungry as breasts become painfully engorged with milk. This happens regardless if other people are around or not.

    Breastfeeding in public should be seen as natural and normal as being visibly pregnant in public. We all know what causes that, now don't we? And yet being "great with child" is supposed to be a great honor, because of how more and more people would be glad to come to life, it's a great thing to bring another precious human being into the world.
     
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  5. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I Dont See What The Big Deal Is. Women Should Be Allowed To Nurse Whomever Whenever. As For Me, The More Nursing The Better! I Dont Think We Have Enough Nursing In The World Today! Kids Need To Get Fed The Food God Intended That They Have. Again, What Is The Big Deal.
     
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  7. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Do you guys realise it is illegal to descriminate against a woman brest feeding in public in SA, its the best thing for both baby and mother. Why should planes be any different
     
  8. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    It is also the best thing for the public, supposed the woman is good looking....
     
  9. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    And we allow people to eat in public?

    It's also good for the public, in that it could encourage more mothers to breastfeed, it could encourage more people to have more babies, and it encourages people to relax and feel good about naturally growing their families.
     
  10. luvnsurf Registered Member

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    +1

    I think it's hard for many men to see breasts being used in a utilitarian fashion rather than for sexual gratification and visual pleasure. Even though from an anthropological perspective this may be a reason on why they are drawn to big breasts in the first place.
     
  11. Light Travelling It's a girl O lord in a flatbed Ford Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, they’re ours, how dare you give them to babies…
     
  12. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    it could encourage people to have fewer babies.

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    in a way, i think people are so conditioned against what's natural they find it alarming.
     
  13. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    Think of the airplane seating. If a woman breast feeds, her direct neighbors get to see breast - IF THEY CHOOSE TO. From there I suppose someone walking back from the toilet might also catch a glimpse of a breast. At this point these potential victims of breast sighting can

    turn their heads to the side or close their eyes if they are seated.
     
  14. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    How about during the evening news?

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  15. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    lucky kid, i say move over

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  16. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    The French know how to pick a News Reporter that's for damn sure! I'm wanting to watch and even don't speak French!




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  17. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    Then we'd have no excuse not to know the news? Oh wait, was it the news we were supposed to pay attention to?

    Gee, isn't that pushing it? But then if that's what they do in France or wherever? France defiantly could use some more babies. Upon what basis to not allow it? No other news anchors were available that day, to cover while she needed to nurse her baby?

    I noticed just the other day, the weather lady was visibly pregnant. That certainly is cool.
     
  18. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.bethel.edu/~kisrob/ges325k/Resources/CT1994/ct1994.html

    Are People The Problem?

    A CT Institute Essay On World Population

    Some population experts predict apocalyptic scenarios. Others argue that human ingenuity can meet the challenge. Deciding who is right has as much to do with faith as with facts.

    We ought to be wary, then, of statistical targets, and any program that begins with the assumption that government knows best.

    Human beings have, each one, an irreducible value. We cannot in any way view humanity as a pest species.

    When I lived in Kenya, which had at that time the highest birth rate in the world, I had a conversation with a university- educated friend of mine about children. My wife and I had just had our first child, and we wanted to know whether breast- feeding in public would offend people.

    "No," our friend said. "In fact, it would be good. People would be surprised that you want to be so close to the baby."

    "Why would that surprise them?" I asked.

    "Well, you know, we tend to think that white people don't like children."

    "But why would you think that?"

    He thought a while. "Maybe because you people brought birth control, and since you don't want to have children, you probably don't like them."

    This excerpt that I clipped, 7 years ago, I found very convincing anecdotal story as to why mothers should be allowed to breastfeed in public.

    I hear in developing countries, breasts aren't considered sexual. Well in the United States, perhaps breasts are sexual? But I believe people often deserve the benefit of the doubt. So rather than seeing it as sexual, we have reason to overlook and allow it, if simply there's a baby to explain for it. I mean people do eat in public, do they not?
     
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  19. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    title: Natural family growth, is quite beautiful and natural.

    Why would it encourage smaller families? A society more comfortable about babies and their needs, is more pronatalist, and encourages families to grow larger more naturally.

    You speak against the unnatural, so wouldn't that include the unnatural, anti-family, "birth control?" What's most natural, is welcoming babies to push out as the come, without any means of fertility regulation, other than just trusting God for family size, having married first, providing for and loving one's children.

    I believe in the natural flow of human life, as I am a pro-life activist and natural population growth advocate. That's a reason I do advocate a more pronatalist society, including such family friendly things, as welcoming mothers to breastfeed in public, as they may feel comfortable or the need to.
     
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  21. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    Star Trek is cool.

    Captain Piccard wasn't so good around families and children, so he asked his First Officer, Riker, to help make sure he projects the proper image for his family-friendly Galaxy class spaceship.
     
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  23. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    So is there a a Star Trek, Triple Facepalm too?

    Why didn't they have MORE children on the Enterprise, anyway? The future is so bright and exciting, that sex is rare anymore?

    Counselor Diana Troi got pregnant and had a child, and we never got to see her nurse her child. No baby bottle, not much of anything, that I can recall. (They couldn't show such a thing anyhow, what with Star Trek being a "family" show.) Must be because her child was an alien who happened to appear as a human.
     

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