To be honest,satanism is an ideal on what christianity should be like, the true satanist is a sort of rebellious christian,someone who wants to do good but does not see any good in christianity itself, satan if you believe he exists was exactly that! a sort of rebellious angel who got cast from heaven, some would say this would have been rather harsh,his own father(god) and brother (jesus) both letting him rot in hell and giving him the crappy job of looking after all the bad people,thats not really something you do to your own family,ever since then god has let all christians tag the blame on his own son,thats not very nice is it. He would have had differing views and got punished for it,thats christianity all over,and like satan i do not like it. If you have overall good morals but go against christianity id say you were a satanist,especially if you do not feel comfort in the idea you cant be your natural self. Its easy to tag god as good and satan as evil,this is not the case,cos satan represents going against the 7 sins and that is not considered evil. I dont believe you are evil if you commit any of the 7 sins, however the true christian does. The 7 sins represent what is inbuilt in us in nature,why would god give you the ability to sin then tell you not to do it,thats cruel and unjust. If the bible and christianity is a true account of what god is like,then i say he is the biggest underachiever of all time,a true joker who is laughing at us making us a total laughing stock. Thats what christianity is,a fucking joke.
Doom: Prove to me that christianity is "A f*cking joke". Prove to me that going for satanists values is better than christians values.
The joke is the famous 7 sins,the fact that the bible tells you not to sin is the big joke. Sins are the natural way the human is built,we are built to sin, suddenly christianity comes along and says you cant do it. I say bollocks to it,the rules were made by a bunch of wankers,why would god give you the ability to sin then say you shouldnt do it, thats ridiculous,sins are a personal thing,you wanna be vain? be vain! you wanna eat a lot,smoke,drink thats up to you if it makes you happy, you wanna have sex hundreds of times a week,fine! you wanna be envious of somebody else,well its only natural perhaps if you want something that bad you should go out and get it, you wanna be greedy? well why change a habit of a lifetime thats just normal,being out for yourself and looking after number 1,thats the only way you can survive in this world. Anger! well if something is there to make you angry then its only natural to get angry, and whats wrong with pride? If sins are evil,then of coarse i am evil,but thats a matter of opinion,probably makes everyone born evil then doesnt it! Cos you only follow the rules when they are laid in front of you. If there were none everyone would do there natural thing,which is the intention of satanism. Christianity is like a facade you wrap round yourself to hide the true you,its like a prison that locks you away from what youd rather do,it locks you in a set direction without much ability to steer in other directions. Satanism is freedom,its the escape from the prison of rules,its the ability to exist without even thinking about the oppresion of society and religion,the end of politics and religion which are the true oppresors and evil in the world. But satanism is just a name a christian would call it,in reality its a tag given to those who want to live like nature intended,if thats evil then we are all evil and politics,religion and law is just a controller,a facade to hide what you really are, thats the joke. Thats the big deception. How we live today is like a bomb ticking,the counter is gonna hit zero one day and everything is gonna fall apart, all of politics,law and religion is the house of cards that we stand on.And none of it has ever been stable,them cards are always shaking.
Doom: Satan was God's son? Thats a new one. Is their a source for that, or can anyone else back him/her up?
If you believe that god created everything including angels and jesus,and that satan was a fallen angel,then in many respects he was a creation of god and therefore satan is one of gods children. Coarse i dont believe any of it anyway,so im not sure i care either way.
Doom: you havent offered any PROOF that those values are better. Give me an example, something that actually happened, not u saying that these values are better. Give me something that actually happened, THEN i will say something.
Sorry! dont work that way, i dont really base how i work on other people,i try to diverse from everything else. Thats whats its all about,being yourself and making your own rules. Unfortunatly it was maybe 3000 years or more ago that we lived like this,and nobody has really made a record of what it was like,we can look at animals to see what they do,but there not human,theres bound to be a difference,looking at apes may tell you a few things but they lack the intelligence of man. Like your religion its an idealistic idea that suggests we would be better of if things were like this,or things like that and so on. So asking for proof is a little like when i ask you if god exists,wed both attempt to provide something coherent but we dont actually know in our own minds and are just basing things on how we are educated,what we read,see and so on. We could say you can use your imagination(you have one right?) and you imagine what mankind would be like without religion,politics,law and order. And really think deep on that prospect,im not gonna hand you what i think on a silver platter(although ive already given you some ghost images of my mind),im just asking you to think things out for yourself and make your own mind up on what i said. If you cant do that,well im awfully sorry but i do not know what to suggest,if theres no proof then theres no proof,you just gotta estimate a theory on things. Thats all i do,ill make a suggestion,take it or leave it,its only a message board not my life,dont wanna sit here all bloody day rambling a load of shite off the top of my head thanks. I prefer not to demand proof,cos if there were proof id under all certainty had heard/been taught it already,so if i dont know,very often nobody else does, but i do like an interesting discussion that makes me think.
Well things are a bit brown right now arnt they, a real runny brown that smells a lot, and thats never gonna end. I cant say how ive benefitted from any system or any ideas. One day i wake up and say "why cant everyone agree on something" other days i wish i had the kill the universe switch and kill everyone,then i decide itd be better if everyone just got along. Should things stay as they are?,cos as they are now is how i live,i have ideal ways that might work but its not in my power to change things that way even if it would work. I do admit that i live slightly on the border of society,with my clothes,being heavily tattooed,listening to music one might consider unsuitable for grandma,watching films that might kill grandma from fright and ultimatly looking so bad that your parents think you are a white power nazi, course to the outside world i am a figure of pure evil,someone who goes against whats popular,whats widely accepted and generally an ex-convict nut job with no job. Im not any of that! I believe ive benefitted from this,its the only way of feeling in control even though you are not,but its a powerful feeling.
man of jade: Do the same for Christianity. Reading the Satanic Bible helped me free myself of a lot of guilt, however, I do not belong to the COS or identify myself as a Satanist, so I am not the best judge.
Xev: Do the same for christianity Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! If feeling like youve been saved or something counts, people turning their life around etc. then http://dmoz.org/Society/Religion_an...ngelism/Christianity_for_Seekers/Testimonies/ is an ok place to start. Do a google search on the right topic, and this stuff pops up pretty quick. In these cases, apparently these people liked christian values more.
Disagree with the religion or not, what an intense paragraph. I can relate. My worst enemies are those who presume me to be harmless. They cannot imagine how much I resent and disdain them, or just how great a threat they would face if I could get at them. Everything in their behavior speaks of insult and presumptuousness, and for now it is all I can do to make constructive use of my anger toward them. At this time, I just make a list of them and keep a watch on. Some day, with the help of time, space, and circumstance, I will be able to humiliate them properly - not in a manner they would enjoy, but in a style calculated to make them wish that they had never been born.
You assumed incorrectly. I do not hate everyone, only those who piss me off. Lately it's been the other motorists during rush hour.
1. This is not satanic philosophy it is satanic religion! 2. Quite redicules. Come on horns and virgin sacrifice? 3. I reject ALL religions.
Very good. Satanic philosophy is the title of the thread, and the philosophy is not so bad, but the religion is. I don't like the idea of any religion, because they are all wrong with something or another. And horns and virgin sacrifice is not the only thing Satanism has to offer; you should do some research, you might just like the philosophy. I don't mind the philosophy so much, but the fact that some consider it a religion and act on it as such bothers me.
Frotiw: Since when did Satanists sacrifice anybody? man of jade: Tie. http://www.personalsatan.com/lttd/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=modGeneral
