The truth unveils - the peace activists are "shahids"

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  1. mordea Registered Senior Member

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    No, really.

    And yet the Poles did put their children in danger by engaging in resistance and sheltering Jews, they did engage in attacks that were clearly futile, and they did ruthlessly murder any occupying soldiers or turncoats that they could get their hands on.

    Furthemore, I'd dispute that your description of Palestinian behaviour is accurate.


    And yet you would deny the oppressed the moral right to defend themselves against these actions?

    Morality aside, how many Palestinians actually do this?

    What is the birth rate? And would you deny the right of an occupied people to breed? Jesus Christ.

    It is quite possible to exist in a perpetual state of starvation and malnourishment. The North Korean population is a good example of this.

    No. The Israel apologists would just like to think this, so that they can justify the IDF can justify gunning down children.

    Numerous Palestinians have been displaced, herded into refugee camps, and had their land annexed. The only thing which stops Israel from carrying out its Final Solution is the little inconvenience that the International community is watching. Even the Nazis, during a State of War, were conscious of international opinion.
     
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  3. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    Stay on topic. Your anti Israeli rubbish can be found in enough threads, this one is about the true evidence behind the Flotilla.
     
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  5. mordea Registered Senior Member

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    I'm simply pointing out that the Israelis hehave like Nazis, justifying their excesses by trying to demonise those they brutalise. I'm sorry if this inconvenient truth upsets you. You're welcome to go and cry to the mods.
     
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  7. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    You are accusing Israelis for acting like NAZIS by pointing out they are trying to justify their action by demonising others. So, what that makes you?

    Hmm....
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The Israelis are very careful not to demonize the Palestinian people, only Hamas.
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    HAHAHAHAhaha, that the same thing as straping bombs to your children?!?!

    No they didn't. Show me Poles ripping Nazi or soviets into sunders in blood thirsty mobs!

    No shit, didn't figure you were already doing that.

    By strapping bombs to their children??? If they were shooting at checkpoints I could understand.

    Enough to prevent any peace accords or treatise. Shit they voted in Hamas for crying out loud, show how much they support fighting mindlessly to the end.


    I'm not denying any right of their merely state a fact, that if their occupation was in fact nazi like they would not be breeding at 5 children per women! There population growth rates would be negative. The Israelis have killed roughly 5000 Palestinians (Israel lost about 1000) since the beginning of this century, the nazis were often doing more then that in a day!


    North Korea does not manage anywhere near Palestinians growth rates.


    When the kids have bombs strap to them, sure. Then again Israelis have even managed to save kids in that state.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOVhTFOPKxc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPU4UN03t7E

    probably, because when the arab countries have massacred Palestinians refugees its not even noticed.

    yeah that why they killed so many in death camps.
     
  10. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    If the behaved like Nazis the Palestinians would already be dead.
     
  11. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Truly enough. That's why its such a joke when they scream 'nazi' or 'genocide'. Its like 'where are the bodies?':bugeye: As if you can commit genocide these days and not have some collective mass grave.
     
  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Mind you an apartheid is more accurate discrimination but still israel occupation and oppression of gaza and the west bank is something all its own.
     
  13. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    I agree and have stated so before. The moving Israeli's into palestinian land, bulldozing homes etc is 'ethnic cleansing' but its not a genocide.
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Andrew Sullivan has written an excellent article on the Israel Derangement Syndrome:

    You can read the rest of it here:

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/06/israel-derangement-syndrome.html
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    No thanks.
     
  16. Bells Staff Member

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    Irony..

    I take it you don't want to read this either?

     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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  18. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    The behaviour of several or even three or four dozen attempted shahids is not representative of the views of Palestinians overall. It may reflect to an extent conservative memes within that population.

    Interesting. This requires clarification. Which recordings? The attack on the rappellers? The demands to divert to Ashdod? Seek we no more muzzle flashes?

    There has possibly been avoidance on this thread; yet, in this respect, it resembles the other thread, although the players are reversed.
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Andrew Sullivan is on a roll. Part 2 of the Israel Derangement Syndrome

    One can easily identify those who are afflicted with it

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    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/06/quote--2.html
     
  20. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    How is this post relevant to the thread on shahidism in the Gaza flotilla?
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its about perceptions. The victims of Israeli aggression are seen as aggressors because of this mentality. Blame the Victim is the oldest form of oppression.
     
  22. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Well, the evidence indicates premeditation and intentional confrontation. How is your OT rant about purported Israeli attitudes relevant to that? It doesn't change the facts of the case in any way.
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Since when is premeditated humanitarian aid an act of war?
     
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