Shocking even to me

Do you really expect someone conditioned to not think of palestinians as human and view there lives as worthless wants to kill them. His views however distasteful at least can be gotten to based on logic. Ie. if you except his premises as true( Something I refuse to do as you can probably figure out why) is conclusion and beliefs make sense unlike some others I can name.

 

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So the student should be all lovey dovey to those who treat her relatives and countrymen as if they were less than animals? However much people like you want to pretend that muslims and arabs just hate jews and Israel's long history of abuse against them isn't the reason for the anger and hate it is.

 

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She's the one who said it not I. Resisting abuse and fighting for ones human rights is not the same thing as presenting a desire to see the entire group killed off. In one phrase she killed off sympathy for the palestinian cause.

 

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you can assume whatever you want. its not true. most muslims are not terrorists, they may not like the west for whatever reasons... but they are not in any shape or form guilty. Its those kinds of accusations that actually drive many of them to become terrorists.

 

A comment on the original article, it is by no mean established that Norman Finklestein is anti-semitic.

 

I'm not entirely sure who he is or why he's brought up by this particular blog writer, I was mostly interested in the video.

 

You still don't get it. You can't just ignore why she would say that or want that. And guess what wanting all those who helped kill your people and live off their suffering dead is a very normal human reaction.

 

I don't give a shit why she said it. Its you who doesn't seem to get it. If you want to make headway on the palestinian issue you have to disassociate yourself from two things one being terrorism and two being hatred towards jews. By admitting she would like to see jews exterminated she places the human rights issue on the back burner. I cannot sympathize with her statement. If she addressed human rights abuses then it would be different but she didn't do that, she simply agreed with the statement that its better to have jews all gathered in one place so you don't have to hunt them down globally.

Do you disagree or agree with her sentiments? Is it that you think all jews need exterminating in order to help palestinians? Because really if you look at the video that's what it all came down to.

 

which is why you don't have any fucking business being involved in the debate. Without knowing and understanding why you can't stop shit from happening.

No its rather clear you don't get it. You want to pretend that this is happening in stasis well guess what its not.

You mean like you do when you assume she justs hates jews because and not the very likely occurance that jews killed people she knew?

I disagree. it puts it makes it that much important. it shows that Israel thuggery has negative impact on the jewish people.

neither do I despite your implication. I do however sympathize with the likely feelings that pushed her to make those statements.

True but how come you never ssay anything bad about the jewish genocidal comments?

What I think is irrelevant. Plus my beliefs are well documented.

no just removed from all the land stolen from palestinians.

only if we like you wish to blame and smear people or we could look to understand the why's involved and you know solve it. also I would like to say to you I have a big problem with the inhuman level of ability of restrain anger and to forgive you expect of and demand of the palestinian people. They have a right to be angry at what was done to them by the jewish people.

 

Don't tell me what I have the right to do here on sciforums you fucking moron!

Go watch the video and see what she admits and then come back and tell me you are cool with that. I asked you two questions and you haven't even answered one of them that just makes you look like a wanker.

Attacking what is a reasonable position also makes you look like a wanker, moron or twit take your pick.

The young woman you understand didn't bring up Israel once, the word palestine or palestinian or human rights abuses were never uttered. What she did say is that she is for the destructions of jews. She had a platform where she could have said or asked anything and all she could come up with is agreeing that jews should be destroyed.

You see you don't even know what the bloody discussion is about and so you are spewing your ignorance all over your post. No wonder the palestinian cause is circling the drain. Its because there are knob-heads such as that student and you running around making a mess of what is a valid issue which is human rights. The Palestinians should ban idiots like you from representing them, then maybe they would have a chance.

 

The solution is eduction. However, that requires thinking on everyone's part - which is too hard. That required Christian Americans accepting faults in their own superstition - which is too hard.

It's so much easier to kill kill kill.

IF all people in the USA were educated on the pre- contemporary and post- Biblical Archeology I think we could go a long LONG way towards at least stomping out SOME of this bullshit. BUT, we can't even get Christians to teach evolution. Evolution. Are they going to teach something about how there was a Goddess? No Way.

It's so much easier to kill kill kill.

That's what they both want. Maybe they should do it. Pull off the f*cking gloves and get busy. Winner take all.

 

Bells there was no indication that she is palestinian, only that she's a muslim. Actually I don't even know how the discussion got around to the palestinian issue. She, from what I can gather, is an american at an american university and she's a MSA member and she began by addressing how the MSA are characterized.

If I'm not mistaken in the beginning she says something about the MSA hosting a 'hitler youth' week and invites people to the event.

 

I am not calling for the death of anyone; you're either a damned liar or a *expletive* moron. You're taking the words that I posted out of their original context, in their original context they aren't even discussing similar events. I stated that someone who knowingly puts their own lives in danger is to some degree responsible for their own deaths, those who knowingly put their children lives in danger out of political motivation are guilty of murder. Are you really so dense as to not see that? Bells, how did you figure out how to put your shoes on in the morning?

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I agree, she's not and she doesn't claim to be in support of Palestine. In fact David Horowitz began the 'Islamofacism awareness week' around campuses...her "hitler youth week" comment I assume is an inflammatory exacerbation of the event.

In fact Islamofacism awareness week seeks, by its own accounts, to spread the knowledge of what political ideologies accompany Islamic rule. Its goal is said to stop the liberalist philosophies which progenitor the idea that American is the great world evil, which it states are epidemic in American Universities. One example provided by Horowitz in his presentation was showing how Universities permit organizations such as the MSA to exist and provide them with a platform to spew what he defines as Islamofacist propaganda. The woman in the video believes that an organization which receives no funding nor funds a terrorist organization cannot be associated to terrorist activity...Horowitz on the other hand believes that sharing a mutual ideology is enough to deem your actions unacceptable. To demonstrate the danger of the free speech and platform universities provide to such organizations, he demonstrates that its members are often motivated by racial hate and in this case a desire for Jewish genocide.

However people like Bells seem to lack the mental tact to discern delicate situations and so this thread has digressed into a Palestine-Israel thread.

 

Okay Bells, I'm finished with you. You haven't proved anything other than your inability to comprehend. If you decide you want to discuss the content of my opening post I will begin to respond...I don't think you're capable though, because for some reason you're deficient.

 

Never said most, just a significant percentage of them, enough that one could argue that it safer to murder them all then try to trust the rest.

Guilt is also not important, its a matter of self preservation.

By all means, I figure its a test in self control, if I can make a mere drawing that pisses these people off into murderous rage and eventual brings about their own genocide then I have done my part in weeding out stupid people.

Exactly.

 

Mod Hat - Closure

Mod Hat — Closure

This thread is based on a propaganda presentation through a racist advocacy website. The inflamed passions that result are pretty much expected.

This thread is closed; I consider this outcome preferable to sanctions against multiple members.

If people wish to discuss the Israel/Palestine issue in EM&J, it would behoove them to do so rationally, starting with topic posts and continuing on to every member who participates.

Easy enough?

Good.

Thank you.