Shocking even to me

Muslim Students Associate [MSA] is an organization dedicated serving Muslim students within American universities and is similar to Hillel, a Jewish organization dedicated to catering kosher / spiritual needs. It's likely that the majority of their actions would not be questionable to anyone; provided hallal food to practicing muslims, providing religious services, providing materials for holidays and catering to an environment of general comradery amongst the Muslim community.

What's unfortunate is many of its (especially American-born Muslims) constituents don't have as noble of ideals as those listed on the site:

What can't be denied is that they will abide by the 4th rule strictly even if it implies breaking the 6th.

Video Link:
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/05/11/for-it-msa-student-confesses-she-wants-a-second-holocaust/

I'm not entirely sure if she was being smug/sarcastic when she said "our annual 'Hitler Youth' week". But I am sure that her final affirmative statement replying to David Horowitz question was far from smug...

What's most scary is that she's not uncommon, even if she is the minority a large population of people who bare American citizenship think like her, act like her, and have the same value system. If anybody excuses her reply they themselves are inexcusably bigoted and racist. Equally troubling was Horowitz' recognition of this pattern of behavior and being able to draw her to admission of not just anti-semitic beliefs...but the desire for outright holocaust against the Jews. Horowitz has clearly experienced this belief system with some degree of frequency. Which leads me to believe America's borders have been somewhat infiltrated by the enemy.

 

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Why is it shocking even to you?

Whats better about your kind of genocide?

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2018590&postcount=8

 

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So the two are similar?
1. With the best of your abilities inform people you will be bombing a specific location and they should therefore temporarily evacuate.

2. Round up people based on their religion into a small place so it will be easier to slaughter them.

Only if you live in crazy-person world. The first one isn't even genocide...it's war, and it shows more consideration for human life than any other war in history.

If you both want to live in a disgusting world with people like the individual in the video, then continue on with your retarded philosophies. As I see it; your failure to condemn her words attributes either similar philosophy or indifference. By the way, you can't convince me that I would like to see Palestinians dead...I am in fact me...and I know what I believe. So when I tell you "genocide is unacceptable in any circumstance" and you accuse me of believing genocide is acceptable...it just makes you look foolish.

 

Well then your friend in the MSA is giving advance notice of a holocaust, so you better run, otherwise according to your own criteria, those who don't leave, like the Jews who stayed in Germany rather than run to Palestine, cannot call it genocide.

 

You're silly.

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Israel wanted people to leave so no one died, she wants everyone to come so everyone dies.

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Ah yes, everyone's favourite genocide fantasy: all those unwanted people taking up much wanted space.

 

Why would we want to run to a place that doesnt really exist? Israel does have a real name you know

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Do you know the English?

 

there are plenty of people with extremist views on both sides of the spectrum, the fact that one of those morons got a chance to speak on youtube shouldn't shock you. i mean really... out of 6+ billion people surely some(millions, hundreds of millions) will believe stupid things, the catch is however~~ do they actually have the power to act upon it... some do. this one doesn't


as far as i can tell that student is a moron, at first she talks about how its nice how people can exchange their views blablabla~~ something she couldn't even exercise in most muslim countries

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but dont think Horowitz is any better... hes just as bad, but on the other political spectrum... he clearly knows how to debate better, and when to shut up.

frankly i dont care what some dumb student says... Horowitz on the other hand is a highly influential neocon anti freedom of speech racist liar whos heard by millions all over the media... you want shock value listen to him, because his thoughts actually matter.

 

and take a look at the youtube comments.... the general tone is extremely anti muslim... just because 1 student said something stupid....

its sad really, the hypocrisy is rampant and they don't even realize it.

 

|| Moved from 'Free Thoughts' to 'Politics'.

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Its people like her that make it difficult for the Palestinian movement to make any headway. Notice she's an american and not living with 'her people'. She's admitted that the agenda is simply to kill jews and yet seems surprised that the MSA is linked to terrorism

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People who hold her opinion are not for the palestinian people, they are an impediment to peace in the region.

 

Lets assume, just hypothetically, that a significant percentage of Muslims do represent an all out threat to civilization and to causing world wide genocide of all infidels or at least Jews, what are we to do? I would suppose the only solution is to kill them all, but then we will be committing genocide, is the hypocrisy worth it? I would rather wait until more then one Muslim country nukes us before implementing operation 'Islamic glass parking lot'.

 

Now all you need to do is kick this thread into the Cesspool and your work will be done.

hypewaders interjection: Everyone's sure to play nice now...

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You're an outright liar. I stated Israel had made greater efforts to reduce civilian casualty than any other warring nation in history, and those that stayed in protest of the bombing had foreknowledge that bombs were going to be dropped on their house at time X:XX and were thus were practically suicidal. Liar.

 

I rarely report anyone.

You're taking what I said out of context, if I recall we were discussing how Israel was bombing civilian targets in Palestine. The reason was terrorists were hiding within the civilian population. The issue was many civilians failed to leave their homes after being warned. I expressed that in war no notice is necessary...since it is after all Palestine who declared war on Israel they're responsible even less for civilian casualties. Nonetheless they scattered pamphlets, texted cellphones, and made phonecalls to those who were going to be bombed and those who they called would get every woman and child they could find and stand on the roof of the target! It's my belief that in this case the Palestinians are murdering their OWN children and are themselves committing suicide.

Let me ask you...if you put your kid in the highway...who is responsible for the death...you or the driver?

But for some reason you cannot understand this very basic concept and instead keep snorting, sneering and making this thread sound like a horse barn.

You're also making this thread convoluted; my point was this woman is crazy. And your counter argument was "you're crazy". Since when is an ad-hominem constitute a response? Stop. If you agree with her views state you agree, if you disagree state that...but stop with your (intentionally?) stupid and incorrect out of context commentary on an unrelated issue.

 

Well I wasn't aware that the thread was about Cheski:shrug: I don't know what Cheski thinks, my comment was focused on the video footage provided and what the student had to say in answer to the question of whether it was better to keep jews in one place saving them the trouble of having to hunt them down. It doesn't help build sympathy towards the palestinian cause plain and simple.