Alert NEWS:COLUMBIA BREAKS UP!

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Cthulhu, Feb 1, 2003.

  1. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    Don't worry, sharon will send some attack helicopters to Gaza to punish some innocent civilians if the extremists claim responsibillity....
     
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  3. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    I have a feeling that some radicals (Muslim or not Muslims) may claim credit to this tragedy. They have done that in the past on other tragedies and we have conveniently believed them. Some how, we may not be so willing to believe them on this, or would we?:m:
     
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  5. spookz Banned Banned

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    defcon 1

    my car
    flat tire
    i suspect arab terrorists
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Muslims have now become synonymies with “Gremlins” and “Gnomes” here in the western world! When something goes wrong blame them!
     
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  8. Virgin Banned Banned

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    Sheeps!

    The masses always follow the Chief!
    We follow commercials without bothering about the truth, great majority are
    Hypnotized by what politicians and media says without bothering to countercheck it
    So, are there any surprises here?
    :m:
     
  9. blobrana Registered Senior Member

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    My heart goes out to all those left behind.

    This is a tragic week for nasa in general;
    Three Apollo 1 astronauts died in a launch-pad fire during tests on Jan. 27, 1967.

    The Challenger explosion, which killed seven astronauts, was on Jan. 28, 1986.

    Columbia was NASA's oldest shuttle,inaugurated in flight on April 12, 1981, and had flown 28(?) times in space.

    i think that we should always remember that space-exploration is always going to be a risky. i believe that a risk factor of 1 in 200 launches (ending in disaster), was carried out by NASA.

    But i for one believe that this only strengthens our hearts to the challenges still to be faced in space exploration.
     
  10. Eli Z Registered Senior Member

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    Is there a black box on the shuttle?

    Does anyone has a link for the official answer, not what people think?
     
  11. blobrana Registered Senior Member

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    The black-box is mission control.

    All the data has been saved, and will be looked at to find out the reason why NASA's oldest shuttle, Columbia (first flight on April 12, 1981, and flown 27 times in space.), broke up...

    Nasa`s calculated risk factor for the space-shuttle mission life-time was 1 in 200...
     
  12. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Blobrana, the space shuttle does have a black box. Mission control lost contact with them, they dont have anything recorded. We can only hope that they find the black box so that we can find out what really happend.

    *EDIT*
     
  13. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, there numerous so called black boxes, not exactly as we understand it on conventional airplanes but in the form of data loggers. The data collected is later used in assessing and implementing the maintenance program as well as helping
    for improvements and enhancements that may be required in future missions. If something technical, material fatigue, etc. was the cause, it will be recorded.
    Another thing is, if the encasing of the data loggers have survived the accident.
    :m:
     
  14. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    These 'black boxes' are simply hard drives. There is no way they would have survived failing thru the atmosphere from 200k. They are designed for diagnostics... not situations like this.
     
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  16. DannyBhoy Registered Member

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    Personally, I find conspiracy theorists to be of sick minds and souls. And the rcist and religious intolerance innuendo by some posters are just lame.

    Concerning the tragedy, I am really saddened. I hope NASA would scale back their Manned Space Missions, and use their budget sensibly, for cheap research and unmanned missions. Maybe they can send more space probes, or a better Orbiting Space Telescope. Sending people on dangerous missions that can be done by unmanned vehicles is just stupid. It's hubris.

    I don't really care for the Shuttle Missions or the ISS. They're just draining money and talented people away from genuine scientific research. Most of the experiments they've conducted on the shuttle are trivial, and those that really mattered, like monitoring clouds and pollution, can be done by cheap sattelites.
     
  17. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

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    No shuttle ... No ISS!

    No ISS ... No dream of space!

    Go for the dream!

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  18. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I personally believe the future of space is not for Humans of flesh and blood, but for our mechanical progeny. Homo sapiens evolved on this planet and we will most likely go extinct here as well. Existence in space is much easier for creatures that don’t need water, O2, set temps ranging between 20-25C, and a constant supply for organic compounds. Robots and will conquers space not us. If you want to travel across space would it not be cheaper if all you had to transport is the digitally transmitted data of your memories personality and soul? The human body is a waste, a dead end of evolution it, cannot extend thought and existence any forth now it is up to us to be willing to evolve beyond this form and the desires of the flesh.

    Jesus I got to stop watching “Serial experiment: Lain” while :m: !!!
     
  19. Cthulhu Banned Banned

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    Thats crap. Men will walk on other planets just as the Apollo astronauts reached the moon. We just need to use nuclear power. If we don't keep reaching outwards we will lose that drive to explore and die out as a species. There is only growth and death. Organisms choose their fate.

    Is there any way a determined terrorist organisation could have attacked the Columbia. I'm aware of the details of the incident to date. No missile could have reached it from the ground. Too high and fast. Even if that plane spotted nearby had launched a missile into the oncoming direction of the shuttle it would have been out of range. We shouldn't underestimate fundamentalist extremists though. These sicko's would find a way if it existed. So is it theoretically possible? Perhaps thinking outside of the square.

    Was there even a plane as eye witnesses claim? Surely it would have been spotted on radar.
     
  20. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    No it’s my belief that by the year 3000 the only people left on earth will be those fundamentalis! The rest of use will have evolved and live in a internet that spans light years! Homo sapiens are to lazy and greedy get up into space. We could have been to Mars already! Estimates place it at only $50 billion that’s nothing compared to the Worlds 1 trillion a year on military! People see nothing useful in space only hard work! Robots, Cyborgs and technologist will see space as a refugee from the talking monkeys.
     
  21. RichardJA Banned Banned

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    DannyBhoy, why stop just because of this? Seven people died, nothing compared to how many die each year in plane crashes or car crashes. Also I think if you asked these seven people do they want you to stop man going into space because of their deaths, they would say no.

    I also don't think this will in anyway slow down the race to mars, I expect to see china their within a decade.

    Wonder how long before people move away from trying to place the blame on terrorists and place it on aliens

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  22. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    That all fine and good... but the benefit of sending people to other planets is currently less then the cost. It would make much more sense to finish the ISS first, then the moon, then beyond.
    I personally will not pay my tax dollars for a mission which is dangerous, expensive, and little reward. For the present probes make more sense.
     
  23. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said above!
     

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