Polish President, Others Killed in Plane Crash

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  1. superstring01 Moderator

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    A rough time for the Polish people.

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  3. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Just wanted to post about this. When was the last time when a European government high official died due to bad weather??? Unless the Russians' hands were in it, it is a shame, like a small African or south American government would do....
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Very sad , what a catastrophe to happen . My condolences to all involved. Even with the foggy conditions it would seem that planes today could land with the electronic instruments they have without any problems. I guess we will have to wait to find out what made this plane crash.
     
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  7. kira Valued Senior Member

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    I read about that earlier in the yahoo news this morning. The plane happened to cut a top of a tree as it approached the airport to land.
     
  8. sandy Banned Banned

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    That is sad.
     
  9. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sure Vladimir Putin is one happy man today. Makes you wonder.
     
  10. Echo3Romeo One man wolfpack Registered Senior Member

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    No it doesn't.
     
  11. philipthegreat Registered Senior Member

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    Why is Polish history so depressing?
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  12. superstring01 Moderator

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    The pilot tried to land like four times before he crashed the plane. Pretty cut and dry.

    Unless the pilot was a Russian agent, or unless those pesky Russians have learned to control the weather--to the extent that they can create fog--I'm pretty sure they aren't behind this particular series of deaths.

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  13. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    Not all of it... ...They peaked early:

    Map of Poland circa 1550



    Or a glorified third world sty like Russia, where the airports ain't even got a friggin' guide-beam for landing during inclement weather.
    :crazy:

    As for Russian involvement in the crash... ...Much as I loathe them for no good or rational reason, I doubt such is the case... ...on the other hand - this is the same "post-Soviet Russia" that tried killing former Ukranian President Viktor Yushenko with dioxin, and poisoned ex-Russian agent Alexander Litvinenko with radioactive Polonium, so who knows what the no good sons of bitches are capable of...
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  14. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Sheesh...

    My condolences to the families and a raised eyebrow

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    to the conspiracy speculators.
     
  15. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    So? That doesn't make it acceptable for a European country... We supposed to have technology and such....

    Seriously, if a European country (or actually any country) in the 21st century can not afford to have at least 1 plane that can land in zero visibility, then that nation should be extinct or take the bus at least....
     
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  16. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Bad location, between 2 stronger empires...
     
  17. Jozen-Bo The Wheel Spinning King!!! Registered Senior Member

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    What kind of airplane was it...
     
  18. kira Valued Senior Member

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    Are European countries supposed to be immune from accident or what?

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    There was heavy fog, they didn't see the tree. The airport is near forest, but supposedly some km radius around airport should be free from trees especially if it is often foggy. Anyway, when the surrounding airport is free from trees, there will always be other factors, like a slippery landing road or whatever. Accident happens.


    According to the link in the OP, it's a TU-154 (whatever that means

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    ), I guess Dywyddyr must know about this. Specifically, this is the one that carry them (from the article in the OP):

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  19. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    To me, it's seems like Putins political adversaries always suffer. First it was the Ukraine, then Georgia, now Kyrgyzstan and Poland. He's the luckiest politician alive.
     
  20. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    Hey - I said I doubted Rooskie sabotage.

    Still...this is the country that sent a submarine to plant their flag at the bottom of the ocean over the North Pole so they could claim they owned it.

    I'm just sayyin' - they're wacky.




    Tupolev-154 is the manufacturer and the aircraft model number - Like Boeing 727 or Airbus A320, &tc.
     
  21. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    No, but from stupidity, yes. Although we could insert a Polish joke here.

    My point was that landing in zero visibility has been around for 30 years or more, so unless they were using a Cessna turboprop with Windows 78, they should have been able to land safely, fog or no fog. And should we mention this was Polish Air Force One???

    What do you think how those multimillion dollar airplanes with 4-500 passengers land when the weather is shitty? By praying, I guess...
     
  22. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    I got curious, just how many decades are the Polish behind the times:

    " The first such landing was achieved at Bedford (home of BLEU) in March 1964. The first on a commercial flight with passengers aboard was achieved on flight BE 343 on 10 June 1965, with a Trident 1 G-ARPR, from Paris to Heathrow with Captains Eric Poole and Frank Ormonroyd."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoland

    "In the 1980s and 1990s there was, however, increasing pressure globally from customer airlines for at least some improvements in low visibility operations; both for flight regularity and from safety considerations. "
     
  23. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Without looking. Don't cheat now.
    What is his surname? "Lech something" won't do.
     

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