something ive realised is that we havnt advanced to a mentalality that is able to deal with the complexity of a our current technologies. I think its the results of this/.
Not to mention the rate of change... By the time someone is used to how things are now, it's all changed again.
exactley, within all elements. socially, physicallly, cultutrally, technologogically.... we have this thrust to keep advancing, but we dont know why, and we do it anyway.
As I said before: "Not me. I have a wonderful wife, great kids, and beautiful grandkids. " You may choose to deprecate it, but it's still great. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Bah, you're boring. Tell me, will those people always be with you? No? And will they understand and accept you, all of the time? No? Then you are alone.
What does it matter they accept you. As long as you can accept them you well be content. Unless you are driven by the need for external gratification. In that case you wil never find any peace.
Xev Sorry to burst your bubble (or whatever it is that you keep your thoughts in), but there is no possible way to die alone. You fail to see the connections within the universe; everyone and everything is connected somehow, so if one person dies, no matter how hard you try to deny it, everything knows it, whether they know they know it or not. How would you like to die? Odd quiestion I know, but I am serious. I want to cause a ripple (like that VW beetle commercial) and cause everyone in the world to smile or laugh and the guy who shoots me will see my smile and feel happy that he has ended my life as I wanted it to end.
In my personal Opinion Suicide is takeing the easy way out of lifes problems. Im not saying suicide is easy but the desire to end the crap you go through day by day forever is easier that sticking with it. Now those who commit suicide because they have come to a realization that life is pointless is a different matter in my opinion. For one to think life has no point or that its meaningless would in my sense of logic mean that they have had a few probs in their life beyond just realiseing life is meaningless or pointless. Something had to have happened to make them realise this. If it is a troublesome life its my beliefe that they convince themselves that they are commiting suicide for a reason other than just a shitty life so they feel better about actually going through with it. Humans have a tendency to find ways to make wrong things seem right by convinceing themselves then others that they are doing something wrong for a good reason. Self-denial and self-dilusion are good examples. This usually happens when there is a conflict in morals and desires. One may have the desire to die or commit suicide but his morals are against it. So then they convince themselvs that they are commiting suicide for a different reason that doesnt conflict with thier morals. But could be full of crap........Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Ah, a good point. But we can't completely rule out the possibility that life IS pointless and meaningless, and these people have not diluted themselves to believe it, but had a moment of clarity...
Can one tell the difference between a moment of Clarity, a moment of Insanity or a moment of delusion?
If you go back to my starting post of this thread, that is what this whole debate started with, lol. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Here's and idea... Let's blow up the world! Then we would all know if life was meaningless...oh wait...it wouldn't matter then.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Suicide is a bad idea methinks because if you die, then the uncertainty is higher. At least by living out your life (dull or shitty as it is or will be or could be) you know what is coming. If you are so curious thoguh, and that is your method of exploration, more power to you--it is a step that so many are afraid to take, but also one that so many have. Ultimately, you are screwed either way--if you choose to see it that way, or you win either way.
There's another twist to suicide that one could consider. What if a person feels like they've accomplished everything in life that they want to? A good education, a good job, a great family, children. All of this is accomplished at a relatively early age. What's left. If that person is intellectual or inquisitive, they could possibly start thinking "OK..what's next." In my eyes, suicide could be their way to determine what's next. The answer to all of life's questions...life after death, heaven, nothingness, reincarnation...etc. For their sake the risk of disappearing into 'nothingness' could be worth taking to find out the truth...especially if one of the alternatives exists. So for some suicide is the only way out...but for others could suicide be the ultimate experiment to carry out from which they won't return?
reincarnation.... Lmao ever heard of the tea of forgetfullness. Pretty much when you die you forget the life you had before.
I don't know a lot about reincarnation, but I've heard of people experiencing 'shadows' or flashes of a past life? Is this not a recognized phenomena in the study of reincarnation? (What would this be reincarnationology?)Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Reincarnation... im trying to prove that at www.randi.org 's forumPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Ratbastard makes a good point. Let's say I've been depressed my whole life, but refused to give up through suicide. I finally get out of depression and make the absolute most out of my life. Everything is PERFECT... No where to go but down, so why not end my life on a good note. Quit while I'm ahead...
