It is time for us athiests to stand up for ourselves.

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by fellowtraveler, Jan 2, 2010.

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Is being an atheist less acceptable than it was in the last 30 years in America ?

Poll closed Jan 3, 2010.
  1. yes, most definately

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. no, it is the same as it was

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. I am not sure, but sense that is the trend

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  4. I really don`t know

    4 vote(s)
    44.4%
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  1. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. The same goes for whenever I review a movie.

    "The Road" was soooo such a boring movie. Are you going to take that as if I stated it as if it were a fact? Who cares?
     
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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    False comparison: if you make a statement about a single movie it's obviously just your opinion.
    If you make a claim about the behaviour an entire group of people (with nothing whatsoever to support it) then you're making claims that are obviously so specious all you're doing is wasting time by inventing those claims.
    Especially when you are using that claim to support your argument.
     
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  5. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    Some day each soul will come to plead for itself, and every soul be repaid according to whatever it has done, and they will not be wronged.-Quran

    They said: "We will never choose you before explanations have come to us nor ahead of the One Who originated us. Decide anything you may decide; you are no judge: You will only decide during this worldly life. We believe in our Lord, so He may forgive us our mistakes as well as for any magic you have compelled us to perform. God is Better and more Enduring."- Quran

    Do people reckon that they will be left alone just because they say: "We believe," and they will not be tested? We have tested the ones who preceded them. God knows the ones who are truthful and He will recognize liars. Or do the ones who perform evil deeds reckon they will get ahead of Us? How badly do they judge!- Quran

    What you may have slipped up on already will not be held against you, but only something your hearts have done intentionally. Yet God is Forgiving, Merciful.- Quran

    Does anyone exist whose evil action seems so attractive to him that he regards it as fine? God lets anyone He wishes go astray while He guides whomever He wishes. Do not let yourself go around pitying them; God is Aware of what they are producing. - Quran

    On the day when God's enemies are summoned to the Fire, they will be paraded forth so that when they come up to it, their hearing, eyesight and their skins will testify against them concerning anything they have been doing. They will say to their skins: "Why have you testified against us?"- Quran

    Anything that has been told you is merely what was told [other] messengers before you. Your Lord is the Master of Forgiveness as well as the Wielder of Painful Punishment. If We had set it up as some foreign Reading, they would still say: "If its verses were only spelled out in details!" Must it be foreign while [he speaks] Arabic? SAY: "It means guidance and healing for such people as believe, while the ones who do not believe are merely hard of hearing and it [implies] blindness on their part as well. Those people [act as if they] are being called to from a long distance off."- Quran

    Is there any reward for kindness
    except kindness itself?- Quran

    Those will be the nearest in gardens of bliss, a multitude from early men and a few from later ones on couches set close together, leaning back on them, facing one another. Immortal youths will stroll around them with glasses, pitchers, and a cup from a fountain which will not upset them nor dull their senses; and any fruit that they may choose, and the meat from any fowl they may desire; and bright-eyed damsels [chaste] just like treasured pearls, as a reward for what they have been doing. They will not hear any idle talk there nor any fault-finding, merely people saying: "Peace! Peace!"- Quran


    All these quotes seem like pretty standard simple rules to follow, any human being is capable of doing. So if you end up in hell it is your fault and your fault only, do not dare blame anyone else let alone God.


    In the Quran it states, all babies that should pass will go to heaven. God is more knowledgeable than you are. You do not know the fate of that baby.

    Not necessarily, intentions are the ones that matter. The only reason why you ask such stupid questions is because you lack understanding. It is obvious.
     
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  7. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Which argument? How much of a religion atheism is and how religious atheists are? There is no such thing as a person that can make an ad-hominem generalization as if it was a fact or use it to support any sort of argument. If you think that the examples I posted of how irrationally atheists behave is incorrect, then prove it. Don't forget to use some solid facts.
     
  8. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    LOL! I don't see how your comment has to do with the slightest thing I said. Wasting my time.
     
  9. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    That is some satanic worshipping idol. It would be an error to believe in such because that creature does not answer back.
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    On the contrary: you made the claim, either prove it or retract it.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Samcdkey? She will be back before you know it.

    I think I understand now. You view atheists as fanatics, and fanaticism is traditionally associated with religion.
     
  12. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    For very good reasons.
     
  13. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    I already proved that option C is a mirage. Why is everyone still trying to prove or not prove an illusion?
     
  14. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Atheism is more than likely the default mentality when people feel safe. If we create a safe world then people will simply become atheists. Most Japanese feel very safe and most are atheists. The USA has seen a massive explosion in atheism over the last decade. People don't worry about the Gods any longer. Once we decide that in order to have a better functioning multicultural USA that we should teach ALL children to respect ALL of the different religions - you'll find most grow to be atheist (or maybe Buddhist).

    This is quite clear to see The Writing is on The Wall.
     
  15. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    You are assuming all atheists are good people that love and care for each other and you are assuming that all religious people are hatefull and vengeful. Your post is completely false and ignorant.
     
  16. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    lol

    Still deluded?
     
  17. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Right. I have an atheist friend who really acts more like the "religious" stereotype than people who follow religion. He gets all pissed off when I tell him that I know very few people more religious than him. But it's true.
     
  18. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    LOL! bring it. I will outwit anyone on this forum.
     
  19. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Proof where?
     
  20. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    I doubt this is correct. But I'm interested in what ya got to back it up.

    I checked into anxiety and Japanese and found they seem - not enough evidence yet - more afraid of death....(than australians)

    http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-MDL/schu.htm

    They have high dental fear

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8250343

    My own experience is that there is a great deal of fear of appearing different - with some teenage and other exceptions - compared to Western nations. Fears of losing control. Fears about having other see one's emotions. Fears of failure. Fears of being rude or causing others embarrassment.

    I can't say I can conclude they are MORE afraid than the US. The cross cultural differences make it so hard to determine levels. But I find your assertion problematic for the same reasons.
     
  21. -ND- Human Prototype Registered Senior Member

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    Start at post #162.
     
  22. flameofanor5 Not a cosmic killjoy Registered Senior Member

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    Evolution has not been primarely been taught in public schools until recently. Atheism is more tolerated in schools than any other religion. In many schools you cannot mention the Bible, "It offends people." As if the lies they teach in schools isn't offensive to religions.
     
  23. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Including yourself apparently.

    Here is you admitting that option C does in fact exist:

    QED

    Consider yourself outwitted.
    By yourself.
     

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