No there are no Muslims inside. Oh look some one mentioned the holocaust again, talk about milking the dead. :yawn: So Hitler was a German Muslim?
Rather, someone mentioned a significant historical parallel. Those who disregard history are doomed to be...you.
Lol, I really don't know why I got myself involved into that.. "curiosity killed the psychotropicpuppy" Look, if my memory serves me well, she never said "all" but "some". To the other, it wasn't false, historically speaking. I wouldn't say that it's anti-Semitic. She may have been critical of a few things some Jews did, which doesn't really make it anti-Semitic. Though I must say that she doesn't seem to be in possession of a lot of empathy since she's been completely disregarding the psychological aspect of the Jews' situation. Well, from what I've observed it really did look that way. People entered this thread and from the first page on they were already kvetching and/or making sly remarks about how her thread and questions are offending, or referring to her anti-Semitic intentions which weren't at all present at that time, nor later on. I'm not really here to defend, nor justify S.A.M., because she surpasses me by far in eloquence, and therefore can do it herself. I just thought that the reason for the lock of this thread was uncalled for. I was really interested in seeing how individual Jews view their religion, and ethnic background, and how they identify themselves with it, etc. - the sole reason why I actually meddled with what others were discussing. Eh, I'm not really trying to be critical of moderators. I'm just saying that they have the control over what can stay on this board and what not, but I also realise that they can't monitor everything, nor control every user's actions, and I know that people on here are rather outspoken so they'll come and b*tch about anything whether it was one of their posts that got deleted, or whether the length of their ban was justified or not, blah blah. I know all of this.. I just suggested, later on, that maybe it would be a good idea to employ a mod, who isn't particularly involved/interested in these topics, who would specifically monitor those.
Thanks for showing me the picture. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Now that I've seen it I can actually judge it. And honestly, this one is clearly hinting against Muslims. First it informs us that they probably sell pork meat there. Okay, but right after that it says: "Safest Restaurant on Earth" which is then followed by "No Muslims Inside" To me this sounds like that this restaurant is safe because there are no Muslims inside, i.e. no suicide bombers/terrorists. At least that's me trying to put myself into the shoes of a primitive-thinking person, who is strongly influenced by the anti-Muslim propaganda.
Glad you could see the context. Its why I always follow any news to its source. Context is very important.
Saw the picture. It's clearly not made with good intentions. I can't say that I "know" S.A.M., but from what I've seen she likes to play with other people's words and their mind (my guess anyway). I don't see where the topic was hinting insincerity. I actually had the impression that she was really interested in what some Jews had to say, until people came and started to go on a rant against S.A.M.'s intentions. I mean, I can say that I was really interested in this topic myself. I did. The irony lies within the fact that she did exactly what everyone expected her to do, or more like what everyone wanted her to do. But she made it safely, i.e. she pointed out that she's just referring to one individual, in this case GeoffP. Well, like I said previously. I don't know if she specifically hates Jews, but from what I've read she's advocating against Israelis. I kind of expected the part in bold. _______ On a side note: I think I'll give this a rest, because I'm not particularly interested in dragging this out to the extent where I'd be involved in some Online Drama Llama. Just thought that it sucks that the thread got locked because of one individual who's not meeting up with the community's expectations.
central belief of Islam is that there is only one God (Allah) and only He should be worshipped and Muhammed is His Messenger. The Quran is the Holy Book which is the verbatim Word of Allah. In order to learn about Islam one would have to read the Quran as well as ask questions about Islam to Muslims
You have gone considerably beyond "mirror image", in many cases. And you don't appear to recognize that. And while it is true - and noteworthy - that you are subjected to continual and IMHO illegitimate personal attacks, it is also true that you do not always argue in good faith, nor do you recognize in your own arguments the very aspects of others' arguments to which you most object. You might attempt - as an exercise - to remove the two word phrase "the Jews" from your posting on any topic, and avoid similar references via "them" and "they". Just for a while. One can learn a great deal about Islam without reading a word of the Quran in any language - as with Judaism, Christianity, and any other holy book religions. And this is a good thing - I doubt you would appreciate the impression an outsider gets of Islam merely by reading the Quran. The constant threatening and violent tone, the impression it leaves of a benighted and ugly people being hectored and herded by some kind of quasi-parental authority for their own good and his own ego-stuffing, is unfortunate.
None. It's usually fairly easy to see when they are not being made, for example. At least, I would have thought so.
When was the last time you objected to the terms "the Muslims", "the Americans" "the atheists", "the Arabs", "the Christians" [or even the Xians] or the famous quoted "the "Palestinians""?
I don't recall the exact two word phrases, but I have spoken to the problem they sometimes symptomise with 1,2,3, and 5, - especially 3, from you. 4 and 6 have been handled by others in threads involving me, but IIRC not by me in particular except indirectly in replying to people like Buffalo. I don't object to the term "the Jews", btw. It's a fine and useful term. I just recommend that you avoid it for a while.
Now I am curious. Why? I once considered using "the *^&%" or something similar instead to de-emotionalise it.
PsychoTropicPuppy: On a side note: I think I'll give this a rest, because I'm not particularly interested in dragging this out to the extent where I'd be involved in some Online Drama Llama. Just thought that it sucks that the thread got locked because of one individual who's not meeting up with the community's expectations.[/QUOTE] Really? Why would a muslim be inside of a pork serving restaurant unless they no longer practice their religion? If I have an all male gay gym and have a sign that says 'no women inside' would you also find that it didn't have good intentions? She advocates against Israelis and all jews as she says that Israel speaks for all jews. If she was interested in only what jews had to say then why didn't she take it to a jewish site and ask them? Sam does what she wants to do and we have all learned what to expect because its always the same.
Well, this: http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2355793&postcount=65 pretty much sums up the impression this picture gave me.
But what does this have to do with Sam's campaign? The fact that there was a restaurant that did this? The fact that Orleander said it wouldn't have been tolerated if the word muslim was replaced with jew? What does this indicate about what she is trying to say about Sciforums?
Well, it kinda depends on the facts of the case. Sam presents me constantly as despising muslims, whereas I'm actually critical of the involvement of the islamic religion in law, because it ends up badly for everyone else.
