Iran's Nuclear Program May Have Military Dimensions

Discussion in 'World Events' started by GeoffP, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not by people who themselves invade and occupy, no.
     
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  3. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I see. So when Iran starts pressuring its neighbours - largely the non-invading sort, I'm given to understand - that will be all right. I see. Has anyone checked with the Saudis on this? Oh, heck - I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong in such a scenario. Never you mind.
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    Saudis in future will be the ones providing "satellite" service to its friend Arab countries. Israel needs to do something there, or else it will not be able to withstand the economic and soon military might of Saudi Arabia.
     
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  7. 420Joey SF's Incontestable Pimp Valued Senior Member

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    Just like every other country??
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    And when Israel loses all its rational Jews, you'll be left with these nutjobs holding 200 plus nuclear weapons and they'll be dancing to the tune of some other bombings entirely

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  9. WarAgainstError Registered Member

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    Iran see nuclear energy as the future as oil is running out.

    Iran is not a threat imo
     
  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I don't know that they are in fact dancing for the reasons described. You see, you've alluded to "dancing Jews" elsewhere, mein Frau. And where are the rational Jews going to go?

    Iranian oil isn't running out last I heard; but the civilian aspirations of the program are laudable: diversification of energy resources. If that's all it is, then there's ultimately no problem.

    However, this is Iran we're talking about. Witness Strawdog for an example of the conservative branch of thought currently in charge of that country.
     
  11. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps they have no ambitions beyond the US & Co. fearhype. Its funny how generally folk on this board just swallow the media line that Iran is a THREAT.
    Here is some opposing hype: The Iranian allegations that the US was behind the election destabilization is pure fantasy?

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    Bottom line, the US does not want a regional power in the ME.

    Examples? Like the US pressurizes its neighbors, with the US Military Base sort. Has anyone checked with the Venezuelans?

    Oh, heck - I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong in such a scenario. Never you mind.
     
  12. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    And sooo...this is a good thing, in the hands of an unstable leader like Ahmendinejidad? Who will have release authority on the weapons? What safeties will be included? Will Ammo Ammy follow through on his threat to remove Israel from the study of geography? Has he found any gay people in Iran yet?

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  13. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    How is he unstable? Care to compare him with Bush who in fact initiated illegal wars? :m:

    The threat you allude to has been shown to be a misrepresentation of the truth umpteen times.
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    He's unstable in the threat that you think has somehow been explained, his tiny problem with gay people, and the fact that he comes from a doomsday cult that not even the McBushChimpyHitlerGlaxoBurton people can blink at. And he's only three feet tall!

    BTW, was the war actually illegal? I hear a lot about this but then again Iraq did have several UN violations, whatever one thinks about the outcome.
     
  15. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    The proof is in the pudding my friend GeoffP.

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    The fearhype has convinced you he is a dangerous, unstable man. In reality, he is just trying to uplift his country, against the wishes of an imperialist regime.

    And, you are unfairly labeling as Ahmadinejad`s personal vendetta, the fact that Islam, does not condone homosexuality.

    Of course it was illegal and immoral.
     
  16. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Because considering the range and required size of the rockets, the lack of accuracy and lack of targetting info, etc. etc., chances are most of those rockets would crash harmlessly into the desert, and most of the others would probably land in someone's swimming pool. It would scare the crap out of Israelis not used to being under direct threat, but in terms of damage it's not exactly going to shut down the national grid or grind the economy to a halt. The cost of the rockets would probably exceed the cost of the repairs- these aren't the kinds of short-range missiles you can hide in someone's bedroom like in Lebanon.

    As for Dimona, if it were hit there would be dangerous levels of radiation in the area, but it's not like a million Israelis would suddenly drop dead. You'd end up with up to a few thousand casualties falling ill from radiation poisoning, and Tehran would be a parking lot. Iran's not stupid, attacking Israel right now would be like you kicking over a Hells Angel's motorcycle while he's inside having a beer and waiting for someone to start something.
     
  17. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Well, that was a pointless bit of roundabout speculation. And to uplift his country, he must undertake the genocide of Jews?

    Hmm. So any islamic ruler might execute homosexuals. Still, Ammy does seem to have taken it that "extra step" of denying they even exist in Iran.

    A matter of substantial debate, in point of fact.
     
  18. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Speculation?
    1. He never stated that. Fact.
    2. To exist, Israel must undertake the destruction of the Palestinians, and the theft of their land. That is arguably genocide. Fact.
    No executions. Have you met one?
    Yes indeed.
     
  19. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    He's alluded to it several times. The only response is some muddy excuse about getting rid of the political apparatus of Israel. If I were to believe you, I would have to assume that Farsi is insufficiently subtle to allow such a distinction.

    Of course, you kind of pooch that whole argument anyway with the following:

    "Ammy doesn't want to commit genocide! But Israelis [arguably] are committing genocide...soooo...that genocide he doesn't want to commit would be reasonable." Good try.

    Have I met an executed person. Let me think on that and get back to you.
     
  20. 420Joey SF's Incontestable Pimp Valued Senior Member

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    Excuse for gloiblization jews at fault mostly
     
  21. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    You're crazy, but thanks for contributing to the discussion. :xctd: :jason:
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Easy enough to find out, they like taking videos

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW0D4HkooK0


    And not just in Gaza

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HQZw5JTAE8


    And if they get a nuke what will change?
     
  23. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Allude ... rhymes with collude. No he has not alluded to it at all. He was talking about the apartheid Zionist regime, not Israel, or Jews. I have posted the actual breakdown of the translation many times. Again:
    (http://www.mohammadmossadegh.com/news/rumor-of-the-century/)
    Pooch? My hat. Either way, provide you sources for Ahmadinejad indicating that he is/was contemplating Jewish genocide.
    Pardon, that`s my bad Eengleesh sintax and grammar. Funny though.

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    What I meant was, can you provide any evidence for said homosexual executions?
     

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