Fish antibiotics safe to take?

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  1. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Did you tell the dentist what you did ?
    And, how do you know it wouldn't have stayed down regardless ?
     
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  3. Idle Mind What the hell, man? Valued Senior Member

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    Does it say what the antibiotic is? I have no doubt that you would not experience any problems as a result of having used it -- antibiotics target bacteria, not the animal they are being administered on, so they are likely the same across the board no matter which creature you're treating.
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Some antibiotics can have nasty side-effects. Plus, people can be allergic to certain antibiotics.. and those were developed and tested for human usage!

    Or perhaps even worse, what if the fish antibiotics were of a similar type as the one he got from the dentist ?
     
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  7. Idle Mind What the hell, man? Valued Senior Member

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    Untested doesn't mean dangerous, in theory.

    Why would that be worse?
     
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    For some reason I really love this thread ha!
     
  9. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    um idle as i understand it antibotics are designed to work with the immune system (thats what its usless to give them to someone who has had radiation theorpy to remove the immue system). I could be wrong but thats my understanding
     
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No, but the point is that you don't know.

    Huh? Because it could give the bacteria a head start in becoming resistant.
     
  11. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    Enmos,
    Nope, didn't bother telling the dentist. I knew it wouldn't stay down because I could see and feel the progression and by monday night it was in rough shape. I was also starting to experience stiffness in the neck.

    The infection is gone now. The dentist said that all the white blood cells flooding into the area would kill the abscess and he's right so far. Funny thing is I got a pretty bad case of pink eye last night. Related perhaps?

    Idle Mind,
    it was 200mg erythromycin in a packet. AFAIK there were no other ingredients other than *maybe* some kind of sulfur preservative. I used less than 1g a day. I did experience some minor chest pain but that was probably from stress or spread of the infection, not the antibiotics.
     
  12. Idle Mind What the hell, man? Valued Senior Member

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    Work with the immune system by helping to damage the bacterial population and make it more manageable, perhaps.

    He saw the dentist the next day, though. If he had used it once and waited a week, then yes, but if it was a similar prescription from the dentist, it would just be an additional dose at the beginning.

    It's not ideal, obviously, but it will work in a pinch.

    Erythromycin is prescribed to people.
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well yea, if that's true.

    It probably didn't work at all though. Most antibiotics are area-specific, or so I have been told. Or maybe that's just done to prevent people from getting the same antibiotic too often ? Dunno..

    Ok, but we didn't know what antibiotic it was when I wrote that.
     
  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    The neck pain was probably from the stress though.

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    Yea, but you did receive antibiotics right ?

    Pink eye ? Did your eyes turn pink or is it something specific that I'm not familiar with ?
     
  15. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    A minor update- slept 16 hours last night and had massive diarrhea, but feel waaaaay better right now.

    Enmos,
    Pink eye aka Conjuctivitis. I got something in my eye at work, but that happens all the time and never gets infected.

    Nope, he said I didn't need antibiotics.

    Erythromycin targets gram positive bacteria which abscess are usually 2/3 made of, or so I've read. Again, probably not ideal, but I could definitely feel it knock back the infection.
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    The diarrhea is probably from the antibiotics.

    Ah ok.

    Wtf ? Did he open it up and got out the puss at least ?

    Actually it's far from ideal, especially since you didn't receive any antibiotics from your dentist.
    Infections like that can easily come back at any point.

    Was the abscess visible from looking at you ?
     
  17. birch Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, it's probably exactly the same formulation as for humans just packaged for fish and marketed as such. probably from the same pharmaceutical companies as well.

    i purchased ivermectin for horses from a feed store for five dollars to use on my cat who had a bout with a type of mange (mites involved). i knew this from my own research of the symptoms and a lot of it was online which is a great tool with a plethora of relevant info out there. funnily, ivermectin usually needs a prescription but not when it comes to horses (loophole).

    i found a website where it explained the correct dosage for other animals and how to administer. it was actually pretty simple and it was oral with just a very miniscule amount in comparison to what you would administer a horse. i saved hundreds of dollars where it was have been treated pretty much the same, perhaps with a shot of ivermectin, with repeated interval shots, had i taken it to the vet. of course, not all things can be treated at home and so i'm not saying you should not take pets to vets.

    the important thing is to be sure you know what you are doing, do the research on side effects and such and know the correct dosage. besides that if you aren't sure, always err on the side of caution and never overdo it or assume because that's much worse to fix, cause serious harm or even be deadly.

    for those on a tight budget, especially now and for those who don't have health insurance etc, there are alternatives out there. again, make sure you do plenty of research and find all the pros and cons and KNOW what you are taking. you can ask the store also, some will be very knowledeable about what's in their products where you purchase them.
     

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