Your scored -1 on Moral Order and 0.5 on Moral Rules. The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible): 1. System: Socialism 2. Ideology: Social Democratism 3. Party: Democratic Party 4. Presidents: Jimmy Carter 5. 04' Election: John Kerry 6. 08' Election: Barrack Obama Of the 553,842 respondents (9,772 on Facebook): 1. 9% are close to you. 2. 32% are more conservative. 3. 23% are more liberal. 4. 27% are more socialist. 5. 9% are more authoritarian.
Though admittedly a bit speculative, but if I told you that you were a socialist you would deny it. This, by the way, I had already known of you. Please respond with one of your famously convoluted retorts, I haven't a good bellyaching laugh since the last time I nearly busted a gut over your commentary. Sincerely, Galt
No options for Anarchism? Anyways: Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! YOUR SCORE Your scored -5.5 on Moral Order and 1.5 on Moral Rules. The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible): 1. System: Socialism 2. Ideology: Activism 3. Party: Green Party 4. Presidents: Jimmy Carter 5. 04' Election: David Cobb 6. 08' Election: Dennis Kucinich
SAM: What would you have answered differently if that had been an option? I don't think you're aware of my moral position on many issues. Whose orders do you think I'm following?
I think you are a libertarian but you don't understand libertarianism. You should consider libertarianism. And I didn't particularly like all of the questions because of the way they were worded............but how can the test determine your ideology on so few questions? I mean alot of the ideologies were alike, all those different types of libertarian, conservative, liberal.....? So don't claim to be for freedom.
Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! YOUR SCORE Your scored 0 on Moral Order and 0 on Moral Rules. The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible): 1. System: Conservatism, Liberalism, Socialism, Authoritarianism 2. Ideology: Capital Republicanism, Capital Democratism, Social Democratism, Social Republicanism 3. Party: Democratic Party 4. Presidents: Gerald Ford 5. 04' Election: John Kerry 6. 08' Election: Barrack Obama Of the 553,875 respondents (9,773 on Facebook): 1. 10% are close to you. 2. 20% are more conservative. 3. 24% are more liberal. 4. 31% are more socialist. 5. 6% are more authoritarian. Somewhat interesting for me. I did already know that I despise labels like "Conservative", "Liberal" etc.
Me? Nothing. Thats what I said. Can you say the same about mine? Whoever is in charge, I suppose. You've claimed in discussions we've had that you would accept things you don't support if they were made into law. I wouldn't. If I considered something was not right, I couldn't accept it.
BTW, this is where I was on the map; Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Amazed that I'm the only one who got the ideology I did? It's not rare. These quizzes aren't that serious of course... but it's fun to see in the poll results who got what. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
SAM, I think I know more about your political views than your moral views. I believe there can be and that there are bad laws. I believe that people should work to change bad laws, or to get them changed. To that extent, I support certain forms of lobbying and the like. Things like violent protest are seldom productive in achieving change, it seems to me, except in very rare circumstances. I actually have a very strong sense of what is right and what is not right. Read my endless arguments with Norsefire, for example, in which he tries to argue that all morality is relative and any morality is as good as any other. I disagree completely. I'm also on the record on this forum regarding a few hot-button issues.
Why would you lobby against something if you accept it as a law?for example: and: and: If you accept something as legitimate, why would you campaign against it? What is the dividing line between legitimate and acceptable for you? Would you accept as legitimate for instance, a law requiring all aboriginals to give up their rights?
YOUR SCORE Your scored -2.5 on Moral Order and 2.5 on Moral Rules. The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible): System: Socialism Ideology: Social Democratism Party: No match. Presidents: Jimmy Carter 04' Election: David Cobb 08' Election: Barrack Obama
SAM: Because I don't believe that all laws are good laws. I thought I had explained myself clearly in the post you quoted. In particular, I said: "In summary, I support the rule of law. I support democracy." This means that if a law is legitimately made by democratically elected representatives, then it is, ideally, an expression of the will of the electorate. Now, I recognise than in actual practice this is not always the case. Representatives do not always represent. Nor do they always act only on what their constituents want or demand, but they also form their own policies and agendas. In a democracy, protesting and lobbying for changes to unfair or immoral laws is legitimate. Civil disobedience should always be a last resort. In a working democracy, there is always the option to vote the government out of office in favour of a different one that will better implement the will of the people, and that's the preferred option. Having said that, I also recognise that there can be issues for minority groups. The majority is not always morally right about everything and this can result in bad law. Which rights, in particular? All rights are not equal. Some rights are fundamental; others are secondary. Some rights are local and specific; others are recognised by international conventions and treaties. If you give me a specific example, I might be able to give you a more specific answer.
Well of course you wouldn't, you are but an episodic player in the modern American leftist adventure. Denial obfuscation, equivocation, narcissistic, nihilistic, sacrificial. Whatever fits the party, you name it. If it is anti-capitalist, anti-establishment (not always a bad thing), anti-moralistic, it fits in the modern leftist scheme. You have to stand for anything, since standing for something might be anathema to the party. Thus, a loose federation of everything as long as the party is served. Throughout history, American socialists have always denied who they were, or are. Why do you suppose that is? Please spare us the whiny, well because then everyone would stigmatize us. Horse feces. Hear me now, believe later. Listen to your leaders and think for yourself. It will all become self-evident.
So first it is: 'I am partially a socialist." Then: "Its my love of freedom that made me go socialist" Where in any socialist doctrine is there room for freedom? I' ll give the answer, nowhere. So if I am so wrong (based off my last post), why did you deny being a socialist and then confirm you are? Yea, yea, right p.
If this statement is true (and I believe to be for American leftists), then has it ever occurred to you that maybe those rights that are not equal aren't really rights?
Then this depends on what you mean; you can be pro market and be a socialist, if you're talking about voluntary socialism. I assume you're talking about state socialism, in which case you CANNOT have [forced] equality and freedom. You have to pick one or the other. Which is why the market is much better, and absolutely more efficient, than democracy. In a market you have the power to pinpoint and choose exactly what you want, through your power as a consumer and as a member of the community. In a market you also have the freedom to live how you want; if you believe in charity and equality you can act on that, you can organize, etc In democracy the problem is that you have to settle. You have to settle for a "package deal".........you might agree with politican 1 on issues A, B, and C, but you might agree with politician 2 on issues D,E, and F. You have to settle, and in the end in democracy there's always somebody that is unhappy. In a market you can pinpoint exactly what you want, through your interaction and exchange with others.
