Question for the pro Israel people.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pjdude1219, Jul 15, 2009.

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  1. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Why does being jewish give you(the jewish person moving to the jewish state in palestine) the right to deny other people their rights for your wants?
     
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  3. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Because! Now quit trying to upset people by bringing up such sensitive issues.

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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Can you provide examples of what you are talking about.
     
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  7. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    If you have to be jewish or think jews are a superior race in order to support Israel's right to exist, does that mean you have to be an islamofascist in order to support the other side?
     
  8. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Best answer ever

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  9. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    I heard on TV you can lose 30lbs. in 10 days while eating chocolate cake and ice cream.
     
  10. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    You can. You just have to eat very, very little every day.
     
  11. John T. Galt marxism is legalized hatred!! Registered Senior Member

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    I originally answer with something different when it hit me.

    Perhaps someone can answer your question, when you can explain what gives government the right to confiscate your hard earned money and give it to others?
     
  12. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    +1

    If you want to discuss this issue, please be more concise.
     
  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    How about the jews wanted a country so they had a right to one even though their population made that impossible with out removing other people?
     
  14. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    non sequiter there is no such thing as an islamofascist.
     
  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Oh please I went through this shit with norse. It needs to tax to fufil its duties.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The constitution.
     
  17. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know if they are jewish or not, does being jewish means they must support israel?
     
  18. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    I'm mixed on this; for the one part, might makes right. Thus technically the gov't's theft is legitimate...although it still is theft IMO
     
  19. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Why does asking loaded and falsely premised questions not get you kicked in the balls?
     
  20. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    So the Jews didn't think they had a right to strip the Palestinians of their right to self determination because they wanted a country? oh what that's right they did and you just don't like it being asked.

    its not loaded or falsely premised.
     
  21. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    OK, now we are getting somewhere. Give me a history lesson via the following questions, and PLEASE, make it an unbiased history lesson for the sake of sheer accuracy.

    How and why did the Israelites loose their country to begin with?

    Where Israel is located right now, was there a concentrated Jewish populous there prior to their reinstatement as a country?

    If so, what was this land called and what country owned it?

    Give me the real "no bullshit" reason why Israel and those Arabs who find mutual hatred with the Jews, do so.

    What is the solution as you see it.

    Be brief but exact in your responses that I might respectfully reply in earnest.
     
  22. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    well Israel was conquered by the Assyrians I believe and than scattered and lost. Judah was conquered by I believe Babylon and than persia(who invited the jews back the first in a long history of nonjewish people doing more to get the jews back in the region and/or having their own state than the jews themselves. But its also irrelevant. standards of the time and the exercising of rights.

    What do you mean concentrated in parts there was a fair number of jews but only in a few scattered places were they the majority.

    The united kingdom and depending on how you want to define own either the Jordanians and Palestinians or the British.

    Lets see the arabs hate the jews because they took their land and rights and the jews hate the arabs for having the audacity to use force to try and prevent the taking and to try and regain lost land. its more complex than that of course but that is the root.

    land given to connect gaza and the west bank to form a palestinian country followed by a phasing of land to the palestinian state until all land is under the palestinian state which gives jews the right to return as well as palestinians in a secular democracy.
     
  23. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    it is, first your imply they must be Jewish to support Israel, and be your claiming what they do and asking them to rationalize it. Its falesly premised because your assuming they are jewish and its loaded because its claiming the nature of their actions from a very specific emotionally bias standpoint.
     
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