Israelis preparing to attack Iran?

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  1. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for answering that.

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  3. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Its not like the Gazans asked hordes of Europeans to invade their homeland. :m:
     
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  5. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Update.

    (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1088184.html)

    This madman, Netanyahu, is a grave danger to global security and the future of our children. He states clearly that he has no issue with the loss of thousands of lives, and will not hesitate to ignite a conflict that he knows full well will draw other nations in and create widespread conflict.

    Why in G-ds name should Iran, a peaceful, sovereign nation be dictated to by a known nuclear capable warmongering nation, Israel, regarding what it may and may not do with its nuclear program?

    And thus far not a peep from the US and EU.
     
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  7. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    Israel finally has someone in power who knows what they need to do and has the determination to do it.
    The Palestinians were left in Israel's midst without land at the end of WWII to be a thorn in Israel's side and leave an opening for those regional conflicts to lead someday into WWIII.

    India - Pakistan
    Israel - Arab
    N. Korea - S. Korea
    Taiwan - China
    Weapons manufacturers have made a fortune the last 60 years selling to both sides of these conflicts.

    Israel needs to put all the useless sanctions of meddling nations in their proper place.
    Any country that won't support Israel's sovereign right to control it's own territory is not sponsoring peace.
    The U.S. has historically sided with Israel's enemies for Arab oil money, yet sides with Israel for religious politics, then sells weapons to both sides of the conflict.
    That's business as usual.

    The peace plan has been proven not to work.
    Land for peace will never work except to slowly chip away at Israel's territory, and give terrorist's a staging area to launch attacks from.

    Let an Arab country give the Palestinians some land. There's an idea. But that won't happen. Why?
    Because the Palestinian plight has never been about their getting some land.
    It's about superpowers preying on innocent civilians, creating conflicts to profit from, and selling weapons.
    It's about playing age old enemies against each other and empowering religious warmongers.

    Israel should probably continue building Jewish settlements in Gaza and the West Bank, deport every Palestinian to a neighboring Arab country, attack Iran's nuclear infrastructure, tear down every mosque in their country and make Jerusalem their capitol.
    The Arabs will attack of course, and the nukes will fly...but in the end there will be peace.

    That is Netanyahu's objective here and it is in Israel's best interest to do so.
    Nothing they could do otherwise will ever pacify the Arab hatred of Israel short of their being wiped from the map completely.
    No land for peace, no peace for land...and everyone knows it.
    The end result is inevitable.
     
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  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Sanctions are indeed useless. How much longer will Israel tolerate Iran's funding of Hamas? The attack on Gaza was probably misplaced, the real danger is Iran. I do feel sorry for any innocent Iranians who will be killed, but it's looking like there is no other choice.
     
  9. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    All I can gather from your post is that you promote INJUSTICE and WAR, presumably from a foundation of Abrahamic apocalyptic mythology.

    The Palestinians are NOT the problem of the surrounding Arab nations. Britain, and then Israel CREATED this humanitarian tragedy, and it is up to Israel to solve it.

    If PEACE were indeed the objective, which obviously it should be, Israel would need to start on a path of SINCERE dialogue in view of creating a two state solution as SOON as possible.
     
  10. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Wake up. The ONLY problem is the racist state of Israel.
     
  11. werzil Banned Banned

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    How much longer will world tolerate prima-donna Israel, like failed opera star who wants money and big trailer for make-up and lots of servants with everything for star? Important person with big loud voice, not happy because not enough kool-aid in fridge? Wrong caviar, and not same champagne asked for?

    When is star going to sing, like fat lady? Maybe just big lie, singer is tone deaf, never learn how to sing with orchestra, write own, unplayable music for self, orchestra not know this "special notation" because written in 2000 year-old language, for important fat lady who can't sing after all?
     
  12. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    That`s an interestingly unique and accurate take on the situation. :bravo:
     
  13. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    Your first four words; "all I can gather"....say quite a bit.
    I never stated the Palestinians were the problem or the responsibility of the surrounding Arab nations. I just offered an idea to make a point.
    They are being sacrificed as pawns by the surrounding Arab nations to remain a thorn in the side of Israel.
    It is a tactic of war, one the Arabs have never admitted losing.

    The president of Iran has openly stated the one common objective the surrounding Arab nations have all seemed to share from time to time.
    That is "To wipe Israel from the map".
    They have collectively attacked Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967 and again in 1973 and failed each time.
    Israel is under no obligation then whatsoever to give any land for peace.
    They were attacked and they were the victors.
    They have been gracious to temporarily offer what help and land they have to the the Palestinians.

    You wrote "if peace were the objective"...Israel should offer land.
    Is peace the Arab's objective?
    Do you actually believe that? No one else does. Even history itself is against you here.
    You also wrote "The ONLY problem is the racist state of Israel...."Britain, and then Israel CREATED this"
    That is not true, but let's pretend for a moment it were.

    Even if Israel were gone, would all your problems then be over? No.
    What next then? America...Europe, the whole non-Muslim world?
    Think about what you are saying and "do the math".
    Israel is not the "only problem", and they didn't "create" anything.
    They were given back land that had previously been theirs by a group of nations that had it in their power to do so.
    The Arabs rejected the U.N. two state plan for their poor outcast Palestinian brothers in 1948 when they attacked Israel the first time.
    That should have been enough said about it right there.

    Can't Israel now have a country of their own, without having to split it with someone who considers them an enemy?
    I would think so.
    They have earned that right after being attacked and winning four major wars.

    I guess not though, according to your thinking.
    Is it ever so simple in life that the elimination of any "one thing" will make all your dreams come true? No.
    That is what is called "a pipe dream".
    Someone has painted this dream for you, and you bought it "hook, line and sinker" as they say.
    You took the bait, and with it the hook.
    Now you are controlled by the one who cast it before you.

    Nothing in this life is ever so simple StrawDog...nothing.
    Perhaps you should look for the artist who painted this dream for you.
    Then you will be closer to seeing the "only problem".
     
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  14. werzil Banned Banned

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    But Netanyahu, lead singer, wants Israelis to believe pipe-dream, that all shit from Israelis flowing away, into big sewer where Arabs live. This is fact of life for big dream, that shit not smell.

    Fact of life for dispossessed Palestinians who have 'pure' Jewish shit coming down pipe, big pipe dream of Israelis, who want Arabs to wipe ass.
    Write laws and "sovereign" right to possess land because lot of toilet paper to write on, give to Arabs so can wipe ass of Jew.

    Not "given" land, land occupied by British colonial power with big army, stolen and handed to big fat lady who maybe can't sing for shit. Israel create big pile, big smell in Middle East.
     
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  15. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    Israel's right to the land is no longer a pipe dream.

    The Palestinians merely occupied the land after the Romans took if from Israel two thousand years ago.
    How far back do you want to go with this thought?

    Sorry you feel this way, but as I said; "Israel didn't create this mess"
    The Arabs did when they rejected the U.N. two state plan and attacked Israel in 1948.
    Read your history books.
     
  16. werzil Banned Banned

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    Romans did not take land. This another pile of smelly bullshit, from pipe. Roman Emperor command destruction of Temple, of Jerusalem, but not massacre or enforced deportation. Why would Rome want land empty of ungrateful Jews, who resist Roman influence, conquest by civilized Romans who bring trade, build new things and improve life for people who accept Romans, after initial resistance and defeat?

    Palestinians and other Semites have unbroken line of occupation and civilization, through Hebrew conquest, Assyrian, Egyptian, Roman, now European occupations.

    Israel is a big mess, big dream of people from Europe who want to believe they are still Arabs or Semites, but are all denialist dreamers. Some Jews can claim continuous occupation of Levant and current "nation" of Israel, about 0.5 %, rest all denialists who imagine dispossession and occupation and oppression and war is fault of occupants, all soldiers "holy" and never kill innocents.

    Big pile of steamy stuff, need big wipe from somewhere. Like old lady playing golf and complaining about lazy people who not have job. Big denial of own lazy, grasping and greedy nature, from "rich bitch", nobody want to listen, because not fat lady, skinny white ass and nothing important to say.
     
  17. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    Who cares? As it is, I'm more worried about North Korea.
     
  18. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    wow someone really wants to flash their bigot crew
     
  19. werzil Banned Banned

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    Nobody cares, except people being shat on.
    Nobody cares about big fat lady who can't wipe ass.

    Nth Korea might be a cue for another war of ideology, this time in Asia, but China is big brother, not wanting lot of refugees fleeing war coming into Chinese territory, so wants containment, like Gaza but without the bombing and starvation deliberate application of oppressive tactics to starve people so they "go away", nowhere to go anyway.
     
  20. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    A war the Isreaelis started by the denial of palestinian rights.

    They attacked in 48. Yeah its so fucking gracious to let those you shat on stay around to be shat on more.

    The arabs cannot afford to have peace as an objective.

    Yeah that they didn't want to give up anything to a bunch of selfcentered ingrates.

    Sorry despite what you and your bigoted allies think NO ONE EVER HAS THE RIGHT TO DENY PEOPLE THEIR RIGHTS
     
  21. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    It s a lie. Just because you managed to hold on to something stolen doesn't make it yours.


    How could Rome take something from Israel when it didn't even exist. Israel fell when Rpeninsulaome was still just a city state on the Italian pennesula.


    No you useless bigot its the Israelis fault for demanding that the PAlestinians give up their rights for their wants
     
  22. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    What's a Palestinian? I've never heard of them.

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    You don't seem to know much about anything that's concerning Palestina and the so-called Palestinians before WWII.
     
  23. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Yawn another bigot who thinks he funny

    actually I do. I know their nationalist movement predated the jewish. But of course that's irrelevant because the jews wanted it.
     

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