Discrimination against BNP Members

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cellar_Door, May 18, 2009.

  1. Cellar_Door Whose Worth's unknown Registered Senior Member

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    It is illegal to be a BNP member and be in the police force.

    You are not allowed BNP membership if you are a serving member of the Armed Forces.

    On the 21st April, delegates at Unison’s Health Care Service Group Conference voted unaminously in favour of the motion that members of the BNP should be banned from being nurses. [1]

    The Church of England is to be asked to ban clergy from joining the BNP. [2]

    Teaching unions are campaigning to have BNP members banned from entering the profession. [3]

    At a fund-raising event for the BNP in Manchester, many members suffered entirely unprovoked attacks from a mob of around 30 men and women. One man was arrested for assaulting party member Tony Ward, 48, with a hammer for no apparent reason (other than the obvious). He remains mysteriously unnamed.

    After the BNP member list was leaked there were calls to sack those on it from many public sector jobs. However, this would have been illegal under the Equality Act 2006.
    Not long afterwards, by pure coincidence, a new equality bill was published by the government. The notable addition to the original act was:

    Political beliefs and beliefs in scientific theories are not religious or philosophical beliefs for these purposes.

    Communism, Darwinism, Fascism and Socialism are not beliefs that fall within the definition; nor is adherence to a particular football team.

    This clause replaces similar provisions in the Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2003 and the Equality Act 2006.
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    Do you see this as acceptable?
     
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  3. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    For those of us on the other side of the pond..what is the BNP?
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    British National Party most likely.

    The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right and whites-only political party in the United Kingdom.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

    Yes.
     
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  7. Cellar_Door Whose Worth's unknown Registered Senior Member

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    I quite agree with you. After all, what could possibly be wrong with ostracising perfectly functioning members of society based on who they vote for? [/sarcasm]

    Personally, I find this whole campaign insulting to British democracy.
     
  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't the BNP a white supremacist party ?
     
  9. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Wow..so your skinheads are organized?...ours just make meth.

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  10. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    absolutely!
    :bravo:
     
  11. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Perfectly acceptable. The BNP advocate, on their own public website, the deportation of non-whites, banning non-whites, Muslims especially, from running for office, owning property and the closing of mosques. They believe that black people, from the Caribbeans especially, are genetically inclined to violence and crime. They have entire articles about the superiority of the "white gene" above all else. And the list goes on and on. I would not agree with a member of such a party being given the power to arrest another person.
     
  12. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    They just think they are. In reality, the party is one big scam: they have a couple of leaders who keep asking the members, mostly poor working class, to donate and donate for the party, all the while knowing that they will never be given any kind of real power, while the leaders themselves live in luxury and own giant farms. They keep deluding their members, and celebrate a victory here and there, while not mentioning that if they wint a seat here, they lose 2 over there.
     
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  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know about you but I don't want any racist cops, doctors or nurses working where I live.
     
  15. Cellar_Door Whose Worth's unknown Registered Senior Member

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    If I can just pick you up on that one. The BNP advocate deportation of "criminal and illegal immigrants"[1] - not non-whites.
    However, despite the fact I may not agree with some of the BNPs policies, I still feel outraged that individuals everywhere are being discriminated against for voting for a perfectly legitimate political party. A democracy prevents people like the BNP coming to power because they are, essentially, very unpopular. Opposers of the party would have nothing to worry about if they actually got off their backsides and placed a vote once in a while.
     
  16. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    They dont just want the criminals to be deported, they want their entire families and everyone that ever knew them to be deported. Moreover, even if you were born here, they want to deport you from wherever your forefathers came, if you arent white. They also want to establish policies asking people to leave. They say they will gladly and generously give people money to leave.

    Because you annot guarantee that a BNP member will deal with everyone equally, be they black or white or brown, Muslim or Christian or Hindu, hetero or homosexual. There are certain jobs, police for example, where you need people who are not biased or follow an ideology that sees them as superior to others.
     
  17. retaxis Registered Member

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    BNP states that non-whites will be stripped of their citizenship
     
  18. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I don't see this as acceptable. It's obviously an attempt to exclude people with certain views. Personally, I don't see how one's political views can NOT be considered a philosophical view.
     
  19. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    How can you guarantee that anyone will treat everyone else equally? To me, that is a problem that should be dealt with on an individual basis, rather than saying "Anyone who votes for that guy/attends that religious event/roots for that sports team/etc. should be banned from this job."
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    When your political platform is based on colour, you can be pretty sure your practice of it will also be.
     
  21. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    Not everyone allows their personal views affect their work.
     
  22. Arsalan Registered Senior Member

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    Ofcourse, but the BNP policies target minorities. They show utter contempt for people that arent white or Christian. Their entire history of support for Hitler, anti-Semitism, violence, terrorist attcks and attempts at terrorist attacks makes it hard to give power to a member of the BNP. Im sure there are BNP members that are genuinely not racist. However, they have chosen to represent them a party which is rooted in racism and the public does not want them to be given any kind of powers, especially the power of arrest and or stop and search.
     
  23. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    Is there any oversight of police conduct in the UK? If so, I don't see why this would be a problem.
     

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