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Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by electrafixtion, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    I do believe Mitchell when he states that he was told that there was an alien craft. Still, that does not state that he has anything other than a story told to him.

    In your cute post you mentioned that crafts were doing 7000mph. That makes for roughly 2 miles per second. That sonic boom would have been staggering! I don't think you realize how hard it is to match up visuals and radar especially with these speeds involved. What year does this take place.

    I know Kehoe's book is old. So let's find out how radar of that era works. Suppose that the radar rotates once in 5 seconds. That's quick. A 7000mph craft has jumped 10 miles. If the radar rotates once in 10 seconds. The craft has jumped 20 miles. So how do you know that the object made a right angle turn? How do you know that widely separated blips are in fact the same object?
     
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  3. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Dude, don't spoil the factoids by bringing practicalities into the discussion!
     
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  5. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    Oh man phlogistician! What was I thinking?
     
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  7. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    See, you've been brainwashed by science. One, you understand how stuff works, and two, you then apply that knowledge.

    Knowing stuff seriously impedes your ability to accept the inane.
     
  8. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    As a fan of space missions and a poster on Dr. Mitchells old board I can assure that Dr. Mitchell admits this openly. He believe that ETs have visited but has only hearsay evidence.
     
  9. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks snake river rufus for corroborating my position. Mitchell is quite clear about his position.
     
  10. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    Let me get this straight, you called me a liar when in fact I stated the truth, but because I didn't do your homework, and someone else did, I'm a liar?

    PLEASE, do us all a favor and go get some sleep.
     
  11. EndLightEnd This too shall pass. Registered Senior Member

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    More credibility = more established = more to lose.
    Fear and ridicule is a very powerful motivator. The Nazi's used this very tactic to get normal people to do hideous things. (Along with other tactics as well)

    Do you think a person, who just saw a UFO, feels like they can tell their story without sounding a little crazy to themselves as well? Add on top hardcore criticizers like yourself and of course they are not going to talk about it, for fear of appearing 'abnormal' or 'crazy'. (And what are we trained socially to do with 'different'? We generate false feelings of superiority to validate our positions) When it comes to culture, different = bad, and UFO's are very different.

    We get the few reports we do from the few people willing to stick their necks out. And as you have aptly observed these are the people with "less to lose" and thus appear "less credible".

    Hmmm, when I posted this video in another thread, this is all you had to say about the subject...

    So even when we have a video of something disobeying classical laws of physics, we will just attribute it to external forces. Well shit phlog, everything can be attributed to external forces.

    Do you really expect an advanced alien race would travel in such inefficient paths such as a loops or zig zags?

    I guess my point is no matter what the evidence, until one lands in your front lawn youll never have the evidence you want.
     
  12. electrafixtion Registered Senior Member

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    The truth is Leopold99, they have nothing here. It's just the same old sarcasm and nonsense without a single shred of relevant contribution. We made our point as per usual, and they do what they do best, PRETEND we didn't.

    I mean, here we have squirrel nut sack, er I mean sock, calling me a liar, but as soon as you beat me to providing the quoted claims of the astronauts, nut man calls me a liar. ROTFLMAO!!!

    some people's kids....
     
  13. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    It just offends me that some people feel free to (at best) misquote people who have made their point clear time after time. I won't spend any time looking for kehoes book. It's junk.
     
  14. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    saying it's junk and proving it junk is two entirely different things.

    phlog and stereologist,
    http://www.ufologie.net/htm/japan86.htm
    the captain that filed this report was grounded for two years.
    do you think he'll ever file another one?
     
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  15. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    And the people he "quoted" saying that it's junk? What are they?
     
  16. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i haven't seen anyone disprove anything written in his book.
    you are the only one i'm aware of that ever said it was junk.
     
  17. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    Are you aware of the above posts concerning Dr. Mitchell?
     
  18. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    what does mitchell have to do with kehoe?
     
  19. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    Once again you misrepresent the facts. I called you a liar because you posted lies. The lie you posted was something along the lines that numerous astronauts had seen UFOs in space. This is a lie. Therefore you lied. You are a liar.

    I learned a new word the other day. You are a troll.
     
  20. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    Interesting claim from someone who does not post evidence.

    The truth in fact is that electrafiction posted an unsubstantiated lie as evidence. Leopold99 has posted his evidence which I have disputed especially with regards to astronauts and UFOs. I included a statement from a well known UFO believer that disputes astronauts seeing UFOs.

    Unlike the troll electrafiction, Leopold99 has produced another piece of evidence. This clearly distinguishes these two. I did try to find the Kehoe book in the local libraries. No luck so far. I will continue to look.
     
  21. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    I'll have to do a little more research here but it seems that Captain Kenju Terauchi reported a UFO while flying over Alaska less than a year after the incident mentioned in the link. The 2 year date does not seem to be correct.
     
  22. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    The Captain was flying 2 months later and reported another UFO over Alaska. He withdrew that claim. The November 1986 incident was the captain's third report of a UFO.
     
  23. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    that's it? that's all?
    you don't have it in you to concede that UFOs are a reality and that pilots are systematically dissuaded from filing UFO reports?
     

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