This is by definition NOT true. Join the discussion here: http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=91718 Atheism + cause = belief/argument Atheism is the belief/argument that there is no god. a⋅the⋅ism /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA –noun 1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God. 2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings. Dictionary.com Some atheists argue that their is no position they have, they simply choose not to believe the argument of theists that there is a god, and the burden of proof is on theists. This is true, it does. But, the atheist must also carry a burden of proof that there is no God. The only position that lacks belief is true agnostic, believing that the answer is not obtainable and has no position on the matter. Atheists and theists alike HAVE a cause/position on the debate. Fess up atheists, let's say it together, "I believe there is no God." If you ask me to prove it, then I will open my empty hand and show you. I will demonstrate by praying earnestly with no answer. I will show you the contradictions of your scripture. I will show you the history of religion. I will show you the archeological evidence. I will show you biological evidence of evolution, and talk about evolutionary theory. I will show you the evidence of no God, which there is a plethora of.
Good for you. So what? Atheists other than you don't believe like you do. Scream and shout all you like, they still don't believe like you do and frankly its because they are smarter than you are.
There is a wide spectrum of atheism, so what? Who is they? Atheists? I am one of them, but I really don't give a shit if I am or not. And I don't care who is smarter than me, that's probably half the world's population. But what hell does that mean? Knowledge can be dangerous in the wrong hands. A person with superior knowledge is still able to use rhetoric and logical fallacies. How much you know doesn't mean shit, it is what you know that is important and what you do with what you know. Get off your high horses atheists, that's all I'm saying.
cos you say things like "Saying it doesn't make it true. dictionary.com doesn't make it true." and i have to enlighten you as to why that is a weak argument (my earlier reply to this was deleted, hopefully this is polite enough. pretty sure you could have handled me thinking you're an idiot though)
There you go then. Just stop trying to impose your inferior definition of atheism on others then and you'll be good to go.
hahaha! yeah the dictionaries are all wrong and you're right. Atheism is the belief there is no god. agnosticism is lack of belief, or the belief certain things cannot be known. just because you've spent your life using a muddled definition doesn't mean you can't revise it. deal with it. if 'atheists' other than him believe something different, guess what? they're not atheists. they can call themself atheists, but unless they believe there is no god, they're not atheists. he's using dictionary definition. there isn't a problem with his definition. you and stranger just have this idea of what atheism is and you're apparently incapable of changing it. find a dictionary which supports your argument if you want some credibility.
Look, often times an english word that as an "a" prefix means the opposite of the suffix. In this case "A" = anti "thesim" = belief in God. This is called passive negation. This fits nice in a little box and aids atheists so they don't have to provide evidence for their belief. Unfortunately for stranger and swarm, atheism is not constructed, it is a translation of a noun. Atheists and theists, by definition of the words, are on the same ocean, that's my argument. But, i'm willing to sail on the Titanic of evidence, rather than drown as the theists are with a lack of any empirical evidence. Yes, atheists have to prove there is no God, but don't be afraid to argue it, it is as easy as saying, "Come with me to the ends of the Earth and I will show you there is no God that can be visually established." As I said before, this argument is just the ramp onto the Titanic of evidence. Don't stoop to the theists level, atheists, and hide behind a weak argument that gives you immunity. Proudly show the evidence that there is no god. If you don't then you are agnostic and unknowingly discredit all the evidence there is that there is no god. While atheists will assert their identity however they wish, their analysis of the construction of the word "atheism" as being simply a passive "without god-belief" is linguistically invalid. True, the sense of passive negation is, indeed, one which the particle "a" can convey; however, that particular sense is foreign to the grammar and historical usage of the noun atheos. http://www.errantskeptics.org/The_Meaning_of_Atheism.htm
I, and many other, atheists are agnostics in a sense. I don't know for sure and I don't claim to know for sure. There is no evidence, so I don't believe in god in the same sense that I don't believe in imaginary friends that some people claim exist.
You are trying to be smart again. Just give it up. Your made up etymology isn't impressive. Your "argument" is neither valid nor persuasive. You fail to understand even the basic issues involved. I'm glad you think you can prove there is no "god" even though you don't know what a "god" is. I'll try to help you here. Since this is an existential question, you can just say "there aren't any gods here, therefor there aren't any gods." Also since "god" is undefined you can't show god is categorically impossible. All you can do is say, ok theists, if you wish for me to accept your posit you need to provide evidence to establish its validity or I will categorically deny your assertion. Because the onus is on the person making the assertion to establish their claim. Theists have to posit a god. Athiests couldn't give a shit about gods. If I say Qweg exists are you going to try and prove Qweg doesn't exist? How? Why would you even bother? Anything you try I can just dismiss as your lack of understanding or I can shift my definition. The god of the gaps is infinitely elusive. Done with Qweg? Now try Gewq.
God cares about you? Who are you? God only care those who cares about Him. If you don't want Him, why would He want you? If you don't need a thing, you will only throw it especially if that thing is irrecyclable. We need God;He doesn't need us. Men always deviate from God's plan inasmuch as selfish men always want His Creator to follow his own desires which is undirected. Remember if you are an actor or actress you need to follow the script.
Its not clear how the recipients of a plan have an independent stake beyond the initiator of a plan. If the civil planners for accommodating the needs of the homeless have greater needs than the homeless, you certainly must live in a whacky part of the world Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
what jerk? What jerk and what improv? To those godless, there is no god, even the host of biblical words, none of the Bible's stories will appear to their nonsense thoughts. Imagine, they imagine that the Bible beginning from the pentateuch of Moses down to Apocalypse of John is just fantasy? These no-god fellows must have erased the personages from the Bible. And perhaps they'll make their own version of their so-called "truths" lol. Guess what! Personalism divides their worlds.
