OK, EVERYBODY! The time has come. If you feel the need to insult another user, shut the hell up. If you feel the need to verbally attack another user, shut the hell up. Most people have done it at least once, and it seems to limit our ability to have intelligent debates about politics. JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY DISAGREES WITH YOU DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE DUMB, OR HOMOSEXUAL, OR A MONKEY, OR THAT THEY HAVE SEX WITH THEIR MOTHER. An opinion can't be "wrong". Just because somebody doesn't agree with you doesn't mean that they don't understand (although it often does). Some users label a wide range of people as "anti-American", from terrorists who think that all Americans should die a slow, painful death, to people who simply disagree with American foreign policy or the morals of an average American. The other half likes to call those people "patriots", or whatever. "Patriots" must be stupid because they think you're anti-American. NO! So all of you, stop it. Don't do this. It's stupid. And YOU'RE WASTING MY TIME! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Moderator edit
Wow GB, that doesn't sound like you. Agreed but disagree. Everyone is entitled to his/her own "wrong" opinion.
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I never said that they were anti-american. Im just tired of everything being blamed on US. Especially when that blame comes from other countries that have no idea how things are over here.
I never said that they were anti-american. Umm... ok... Im just tired of everything being blamed on US. Well, every time I smash somebody's glasses, they blame me. I'm tired of getting it blamed on me. (even though I really did it) If they are blaming it on your country and not on you specifically, don't get mad about it unless what it claims really doesn't seem true. Especially when that blame comes from other countries that have no idea how things are over here. It isn't from "other countries", it's from other people who don't live here. It isn't from "countries", ie Adam isn't Australia, and Avatar isn't Latvia, and you aren't America, and Tyler isn't Canada, etc. That would be stupid. And what do you mean they have no idea how things are over here? In other countries, especially the ones most non-American people on Sciforums come from, people watch American news much more closely than most Americans watch European news or Asian news, etc. They know what's happening here, because as Mr. G puts it, "we're the alpha-nation". If you mean they don't know what politics are like, you're dead wrong. If you mean they don't know what everyday life is like-- well, it's pretty much the same there as it is here, except the people there aren't as ignorant and are less likely to be monolingual.
What a bunch of unmitigated bull crap! The US is peopled by the once-citizens of all other nations--more so than any other nation on the planet. The fact that we largely need no more than one language to communicate amongst ourselves--all languages are spoken here, but second- and third-generation immigrants increasingly need only English--is a reflection of so many persons' desires to invest in a unified community. Multilingual nations have to be so. Mono-lingual nations don't not have to be so. China operates with somewhere around a thousand non-universal dialects of the Chinese language. The US has but a few dialects of the English language. Which is the more efficient communication scheme?
GB I get your main point, I am talking about other people. But when they call all americans stupid or racist, I would assume that that would apply to me to.
That "desire" for a unified community is indeed the strength behind the amercian dream. The sad thing being that it still has not stopped a majority of immigrant communities from gravitating towards living in black, muslim or chinese ghetto mini cities ...Chinatown, Compton ....
What a bunch of unmitigated bull crap! Go to your room! You're wasting my time! I came here to have intelligent conversation with people like you. If you'll shout such things at me, I'll block you because I have better uses of my time, ie smart people like Adam and Tiassa and Xev. Although Xev does seem to have a problem with wasting my time insulting me and other people because she doesn't agree with what they say ("they're stupid" is her argument) The US is peopled by the once-citizens of all other nations--more so than any other nation on the planet. Proof? All other nations? Proof please? More so than any other nation on the planet? Can you please give me some references, here? Offhand, I recall Canada, Brazil, and a couple other places being more diverse as far as melting pots of international cultures goes. Only in Brazil, people are usually monolingual in Portuguese, or they speak Spanish too. The fact that we largely need no more than one language to communicate amongst ourselves Amongst the other bilagáana settlers, yes, we use English. Often, we use it with Nakai Diné, but sometimes we use Spanish. And then what about the natives? They're the REAL Americans. They have more of a right to this land than do we. Did the Navajo fight any wars over their land? No, theirs is a story of being forced to leave their land (only to later return) without putting up much of a fight. Amongst Orientals, we use English for 2nd or 3rd-generations, except in the case of some Korean communities where Korean is used, and Chinese communities made of descendents from 1849-immigrants' descendants use of Cantonese. all languages are spoken here, but second- and third-generation immigrants increasingly need only English--is a reflection of so many persons' desires to invest in a unified community. Where do you get that idea? Please give me references. For example, I doubt you'll be able to find a native speaker of Ainu living among our populous, as well as most of the other living languages of the world. And a unified community-- yes, such is true with other posters you call America-bashers' communities, ie Australia, where mostly only English is spoken, Anglophone-majority provinces of Canada (all but Quebec and Nunavut, 60% of Nunavumiut speak Inuktitut as their native language, and 80% of Quebecois speak French as their native language, while countless others in these provinces know them as second or third languages), the UK (which is, for the most part, Anglophone), etc. Multilingual nations have to be so. Mono-lingual nations don't not have to be so. Monolingual does not refer to the state of the linguistic diversity of the nation, but rather how many languages each citizen can speak. China operates with somewhere around a thousand non-universal dialects of the Chinese language. I beg to differ! There is no such thing as the Chinese language. There is a group of languages called Sinitic languages, which are those decended from Ancient Chinese, Mandarin being the chief one. And there are most certainly not 1000, at most there are 20 or 30, and that is a very liberal estimate. The US has but a few dialects of the English language. It isn't the same. It's like the difference between English and German, not between the way a Scotsman speaks English and the way a South African speaks English. So that's why they aren't comparable. Which is the more efficient communication scheme? Do I care? You're wasting my time again, trying to divert my attention from the questions you have not answered, by bringing up issues linguistic-es. Being very interested in the topic and having done some extensive research and reading (in linguistics and languages in general, as well as a few more specific fields), I would love to discuss it with you some time, but I do not appreciate your changing the subject to that. OK? Note, I didn't say anything against saying "Do I care", or "...trying to divert my attention from..." in my original post in this thread. If you think I'm a hypocrite, read the first post. Repeat process until you no longer think I'm a hypocrite. Moderator edit
No, coffee, ol' chum, you must understand that most Americans are ignorant, with their heads up their asses and blinded by their own shit... err... excessive patriotism. That is what most people here are trying to say when they say something like that. You and I, are, of course, excluded, because we have risen above that to what I would call nirvanium americanum, where one achieves enlightenment and realizes such things that most educated people the world over already know. See you in the next life, Kavvhitsavha! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Moderator edit
Yes, and your use of your time is of such importance to the world at large.... Do you have pubes yet? - Warren
My first thought was to completely ignore this as "wasting my time". Then I thought I should mention that I was wasting my time, so here I am doing that. Now that I'm here, I'm even more aware of how much of my time I'm wasting even replying, so I'm about to leave again. What a complete waste of my time. Moderator edit
Yes, and your use of your time is of such importance to the world at large.... Exactly, that's why it shouldn't be wasted! Do you have pubes yet? Yes, but that's private.
GB-GIL Trans-global ......."except the people there aren't as ignorant " If knowledge and Vanity are equals, then maybe so, however, I beg to differ, one would wonder what makes you such an expert on the extent of education or common sense of any individual located outside your tunnel. one who dwells in darkness cannot proclaim to see the light of it.
GB_Gil: RE: "Bullcrap" A bullcrap generalization. Yes, I misspoke. There are a group of languages in China. However, I recall from my own travels through China being told that there are about a thousand separate languages being spoken today within China, and that that made internal communications undesireably inefficient (their words). And yes, all languages of the planet are not spoken in the US, but a very great many extant ones are--as reflected by the diversity of nationalities represented by our immigrants and their communities. Commenting on your insulting generalization(s) is changing the subject from "If you feel the need to insult another user, shut the hell up. If you feel the need to verbally attack another user, shut the hell up."?
GB, while I agree that insults and verbal attacks are usually not constructive, I don't agree that it's a waste of your time. Creating a thread to try to stop that behavior IS however a waste of your time. Plus, there are people who seem to NEVER have intelligent comments (especially within the religion forum). And sometimes insulting and verbally attacking those people is a good vent for one's frustrations. If you know you're not going to get intelligent debate from someone, then why not just explative it out. It can be quite refreshing. But if I do it, you don't have to read it. Just move on. I'm only wasting MY time by doing it. Although, I believe that venting one's frustrations is never TRUELY a waste of time. Especially if it lowers my blood pressure. Happy hunting. But I won't "shut the hell up". That's rather insulting don't you think?
true dat felix.. p.s. this thread is an entire waste of everyone's time.. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
