Man Beheads Wife in 'Honor' Killing

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by jessiej920, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, as you can see, rights for slaves. Although the translations are sloppy, you get the gist.
     
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  3. john smith Tongue in cheek Registered Senior Member

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    Totally agree with you there.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Feel free to post some of the stories you read. I'd like to see them. I've never heard of a single person claiming "honor" killing for their crime.
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Damn, I'm so quick I respond before they even post

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    edit: hey where's the post?
     
  8. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    so aren't all men who kill their wives/girlfriends doing it about their honour. She 'disrespected' him and she can't get away with it. :shrug:
     
  9. john smith Tongue in cheek Registered Senior Member

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    Are you serious??

    Tap it into google, im sure you'll find something.
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I want to see the stories you read, which led you to believe its a "common excuse"
     
  11. john smith Tongue in cheek Registered Senior Member

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    I guess thats a hard one to answer, but in this particular instance the excuse was a 'cultural belief'....thats were the religious part of it came into play.
     
  12. john smith Tongue in cheek Registered Senior Member

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    Gosh!

    I am so proud.
     
  13. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    There is no honor in murder.
     
  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, not at all, you're blind.
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    And you a soldier. :shrug:

    Nah, merely capable of recognising that abd have rights in all time periods.

    Even the current one.
     
  16. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    A sailor SAM. But military members are not murders....not most of them. They are good people trying to do the right thing. Unlike terrorists, they do not use innocents as shields and they go out of their way to avoid unnecessary blood shed. The American military always trys to conduct itself with honor. And I am sure you and the rest of the world are aware of when we did not...and that is fine. We admit our mistakes and try to learn from them and better ourselves.
     
  17. jessiej920 Shake them dice and roll 'em Valued Senior Member

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    I was actually just repeating what I read in the paper. It wasn't a personal attack or opinion.

    If a Christian man beheaded his wife and said the devil made him do it, I would quote it JUST like that. Same if a Jewish man or Pagan man did the SAME thing. I would be like "Dear SAM, today a Christian man currently residing in the US beheaded his wife and swore that it was a lawful kill because the devil made him do it, so says the media. Now, tell me, what do you think of this?"

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    You are trying to find racism where there is none. The only reason I mentioned he was Muslim was because and I quote 'The MEDIA said' he was claiming that the beheading of his wife was an 'honor' killing based on his religion/and or culture, so I felt it necessary to state what religion/and or culture he was of and/or coming from.

    Not once in the OP did I state the media was right or that I agreed with them. I was posting only what I heard or read in order to see other people's opinions of it.

    Again. Quote from the media. Notice how I put the word 'honor' in quotes. This was to show that the term was used loosely and that I was taking no personal stake in it. I don't think there is anything 'honorable' about beheading ones wife no matter what culture or religion and I also don't believe everything the media says. This brings us back to the OP...

    Did this man really kill his wife? Why? If it was a so called 'honor' killing based on religion or culture, should he be able to use this as a defense in a country that does not recognize it?

    These were all questions I was getting at. Not everything is a personal attack.

    And by the way, for someone who is so sensitive to generalizing and stereotyping, you certainly practice quite a bit of that yourself.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    you're kidding right?

    How many of the people killed in the last seven years in Iraq and Afghanistan were 'justly' killed?
     
  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    when are you going to recommend to your american friends to take their vacations in afghanistan sam?
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Some of them are deluded enough to tell me the 'real' war is being fought there.

    You can guess my response.
     
  21. Bells Staff Member

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    Are you serious?

    That's the same kind of ridiculous excuses white slave owners used to say. Amazing that you are attempting to condone it by saying that they were kept as slaves because their owners and masters cared for them.

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    So the same applies to white slave owners as well? Or are they different because they were in the West and the West is evil and all?

    No what's ironic is that people will condone one behaviour while condemning the very same behaviour in others. Ironic doesn't quite cover it. Hypocritical is a better word for it I guess.

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  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Of course slavery was different in the west. There is no argument about that. Pick up any book on the subject.
     
  23. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i assumed you would avoid the point i was trying to make and you did.
     

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