Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.

and once again showing your intellectual dishonesty. the FT-17 remember that.

that wasn't my accusation. my accusation was the before war broke out the british policies ensured a jewish advantage. nice to know your reading comp is still nonexistant.



I have posted a listing of equipment used through out ALL of the Israeli/arab wars.

 

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um that not entirely true. The ancient kingdom of Israel splintered into to countries. Judeah and Israel.

 

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What I mean is that pre 1947 Jews could not (honestly) call themselves Israelis. Can I call myself a Goth?

 

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What is this supposed to mean? Are you resorting to comics?

 

They returned it, now everyone can stop worrying about the "human" life in Gaza

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1062802.html

 

Lighten up.

 

They returned the aid, the children will now be fed. If the Israelis are letting the trucks through that is.
http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2164314&postcount=84

Are they?

 

As I said yes, I did, but then went on the show that those were not the main force composition of the Arab Armor Forces, they were a very minor part and it isn't even really known if they were committed to combat at all.

The Numbers speak for themselves:

345 Arab Tanks vs 15 Israeli.

Really? and again provide verifiable citation as to those facts, or in plain words, documentation that support you statement.

Here is some in support of My points:

http://www.marxist.com/MiddleEast/Israel_Palestine_historical.html

Fred Weston

By 1939 the British imperialists had decisively rejected any idea of an independent Jewish state. In the same year the British government published a new White Paper restricting Jewish immigration and offering independence for Palestine within ten years. After the introduction of 75,000 more Jews into Palestine during the ensuing five years, the gates would be closed. The way would thus be open for a semi-dependent Arab state that would be a puppet of British imperialism. A divided population, as was the case in Northern Ireland, would have allowed the British to continue to play off one section against the other and thus to maintain overall control. The British required a buffer state which could guarantee them strategic control of the region between the Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf, and at the same time provide protection for the Suez canal.

The 1939 White Paper was rejected as inconsistent with the Mandate by the supervising body of the League of Nations, the Permanent Mandates Commission. But the League of Nations was becoming irrelevant, as the major powers were preparing to sort out their differences through war and Britain treated it with appropriate contempt. Four months later, the Second World War broke out; and the British government executed the White Paper policy as if Palestine had been a British possession. British imperialism restricted the number of Jews entering Palestine, at times brutally.

The most famous example of this was the treatment of the Romanian Jews trying to sail to Israel on the 'Struma'. This vessel arrived in Istanbul on December 20, 1941, carrying 750 Jewish refugees fleeing from Nazi persecution. The Turkish authorities refused permission for these refugees to land in Turkey and enquired with the British whether they could go on to Palestine. The British refused them entry. Their ambassador in Turkey said that his government "did not want these people in Palestine." And he added, "�if they reached Palestine, they might, despite their illegality, receive humane treatment." The logic was that if they were humanely treated then there was the risk of a flood of Jewish refugees wanting to enter Palestine. In the end the ship was towed out to sea and on February 24 sank as the result of an explosion. Only two people survived. Thus huge numbers of desperate Jews were trapped in Nazi-occupied Europe with nowhere to go.

 

Which is why the Americans took them in. Right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_St._Louis

No army vs trained combat force. Remember, the Jews were planning a takeover, by force. They were training for it. The Arabs were not planning to evict the Jews. They were not training for it. The Bar Giora, for example, was formed in 1907.

 

BWAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHA..

Hilarity, Pure hilarity..
The serious ex soldier tells someone else to lighten up..

What?
You told me to lighten up.

 

OK, I am happy for you.

You don`t quite get it do you?

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This is a unfounded and false statement.

Simply because Hamas is not committing genocide. Nor is Hamas the instigator (historic and present) and root cause of the conflict.

Hamas is attempting to defend the Palestinians in Gaza from what appears to be genocide perpetrated by an overwhelmingly superior force. In Gaza the people are and have been for 2 years - imprisoned, starved, deprived of medical treatment and medicines, terrorized, assassinated, denied water, denied education, etc.

Why would I condemn a freely elected government that is resisting unfair oppression?

If you have read my posts I have rejected violence by both parties as a solution to the problem. Unconditional dialogue should be commenced between ALL parties INCLUDING Hamas. Example of similar circumstance: Without the inclusion of the ANC, historically recognized as a terrorist organization, there would have been no solution to the South African apartheid regime.

The reason being that the blame (overwhelmingly) lies at the feet of Israel and its enablers.

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If you had any humanity you would recognize this very simple reality.

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Which is why India took them in. Right?

Never defended those action by the Roosevelt administration, now why didn't the Canadians take them in, and why aren't you BAMing about that?

Really, lets start here:

The dissent began in Jaffa when the followers of Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-QassamIzz ad-Din al-Qassam Overview

Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam was an influential Islamist preacher in the British Mandate of Palestine....
, who was killed in a 1935 shootout with the British, initiated a general strike in Jaffa, Nablus, and then launched attacks on Jewish and British installations. 85 Jews were killed during the first days of the strike. Also instrumental was Hajj Amin al-Husayni, who was then the president of the newly formed Arab High Committee. The revolt was a protest against and put an end to JewJew Summary

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/avineri33

Husseini clan mallitia and the Nashashibis mallitias.

So what were the Plans of the Arabs with all of these Militias?

To kiss the Jews, and swap spit?

 

1935 is after 1907. In case you had not realised it.

What would the US do if a group of recent immigrants started a clandestine military in an attempt to form a religious state [by taking over the land] that was not desired by over 90% of the population?

 

And what does that have to do with reality?

U.N. 181 that is reality.

Arabs attacking Jews that is a reality, Jews attacking Arabs that is a reality.

Arabs rejecting U.N. 181 and a Peacful solution is a reality.

That the Arabs were 90% of the population west of the Jordan is not a reality.

This is not a reality.

 

Do you wish to be a Goth?

Modern interpretation yes, historicly

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you might have a problem, if you wish to be a German immigtrate to eastern Germany, and apply for citizenship, no problem, your a Goth.

 

I will try.

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It was the "Arab" reality after the Balfour declaration was made known in 1919.

So, what would the US do, different from what the "Arabs" did?

 

Yes, we must all remember that the UN has only ever made one ruling, in its entire history. This was resolution 181.

"But what has the UN really done other than allowing the creation of fundamentalist Israel? Well, nothing at all. The UN no longer exists except as some vague idea."

The new reality, is war. This is part of resolution 181 too, which says "the Jews must attack the Arabs, and vice versa, to fulfil this prophecy, this resolution handed down by God"

"The faithless heathens have denied the prophecy, and must be punished for their godlessness"

"Arabs have no place in the holy nation the god-given Jews do."

 

Note: once you have the definition of a pure Jewish line, you have a reference point to compare all the inferior ones to it.

This is helpful when constructing fantasies that describe the overwhelming superiority of the chosen race. Mein Kampf requires that I define an enemy who the prophecy says will be in contention, who will wail and gnash their teeth against the holy restoration, and go to war to try to prevent it.