Objective truth - from a Buddhist perspective #01

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Quantum Quack, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. wizard Registered Senior Member

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    i'm not lixluke and i understand why you couldn't give me one example: because there isn't one. it's a completely absurd idea that reality will change to what anybody believes.
     
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  3. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    edited foul language
     
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  5. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    The failure is you. Thus far has been nothing of any substance to even come close to supporting the claim that truth is subjective. Or that truth can possibly subjective. Then some people go as far to twist the the definition of objective truth in order to make it exactly the same as subjective truth which is utter avoidance of the view opposing subjective truth. You cannot support a viewpoint simply by denying that the other view exists.

    These are 2 opposing views:
    1. Truth is solely dependent on the observer.
    2. Truth does not require any observer.

    To disagree with #2 is one thing. But to deny the fact that people view truth according to #2 is unrealistic.
     
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  7. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    I'll go one further, lixluke. Anyone arguing with us on this subject are confirming the fact that they agree with us. The only real responses that would serve to buttress the view that all truth is subjective would be some of the following:

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    90vnwejf
    v9vhwef;i8
    a98dvj
    mfw3l9vnmew8
    99xvs8vms8dmnva

    Any of the above are what I would expect from someone who truly believes that all truth is subjective. Hell, arguing ANY point belies a deep belief that Objective Truth exists, so I don't think you could be a member of this forum and not agree with our position.

    Another problem for subjectivists is that they grant that any idea is equally correct, which means our idea for an Objective Truth is given equal power as their idea for No Objective Truth. Score: 1 to 1. Our idea (which they have already granted as equally correct) says that we are right and they are wrong. Score: 2 to 1. Winner? Objective Truth!
     
  8. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    Warning guys. You're debating objectivism is the truth in a subjectivist world and thread, hats off to your sanity.
     
  9. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    Ah yes, only those who believe that I am a failure believe objective truth? LoL. You'd like me to fail I'm sure?
     
  10. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    If you don't know how to read,.... once again hats off!!!
     
  11. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    You expect debate from this on sciforums? Maybe with the new post format you'll get it. But not from me right now swivel.

    This is total hosh, someone thinking that they understand how subjective truth is wrong from a biased and ignorant perspective of objective truth being correct.

    It would come across to anyone who has any idea what objective truth is in theory would never say such a comment.. It is biased and expects discussion which is obviously not going to happen.

    You don't know who you're talking to.
     
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  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    lol

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  14. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    Don't expect any high quality discussion from me though. Expect the truth though that's about it. Right now I am obliverated and astonished and amazed at how stupid and ignorant you can be. Do you realize that you are debating subjectivists that objective truth is correct? Do you know what happens to people who debate subjectivists that objective truth is correct?

    The OP is a very subjective description which has objective implications.

    I don't believe you guys know how to do anything other than be *********.
     
  15. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    It is not funny enmos and you should realize that. Those who attack me with death threats and bullshit stupidity deserve not to be laughed at with the same enfurity but more laughed at.
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Brent, I never read any of those posts you made.
    I just noticed you posted 4 posts in a row, then posted "Stupid" 4 times..

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    It IS funny..

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  17. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    So you think it's funny ? Do you know what is so funny?
     
  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Sigh.. never mind. I'm sorry I guess..
     
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    Appology accepted.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    You just didn't get my little joke there..
     
  21. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    Actually no, your joke has objective implications which I disagree with at the moment.... Signing off.
     
  22. swivel Sci-Fi Author Valued Senior Member

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    Now THAT is the sort of stuff I expect from people who believe in no Objective Reality.

    tnerb might be the only non-hypocritical person in here who does not believe in Objective Reality. I say this because I can not understand a single thing he/she said in the last dozen posts.

    Wonderful example. Thanks, tnerb. Ooops, I mean: ao838dhkvhe78ch*
     
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